You know, David, I have to hand it to you, Traffic Engineering, (and in this case the Parking Utility). In the last six months or so, every time I talk to you or someone from Traffic Engineering (which is usually limited to when I can attend PBMVC meetings), I'm happy with what I hear.
Thanks, chuck ________________________________ From: Dryer, David [mailto:[email protected]] Afternoon Everyone Rings on the posts is the Parking Utilitys plan. From: STRAWSER, Charles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:01 PM To: Ross, Arthur; [email protected]; Amanda White; Dryer, David; McCormick, Dan Cc: Robbie Webber; [email protected]; Jay Ferm Subject: RE: [Bikies] "Meter remains as a courtesy to cyclists" Dear City of Madison staff and Transit/Parking Commission chairs, The recent discussion on the bikies list-serve prompted me to ask explicitly if the city plans to retain all of the existing parking meters, and install rings... such as this: http://www.saris.com/commercial-parking/commercial-racks.html?page=shop.produ ct_details&flypage=flypage_images_commercialParking_norating.tpl&product_id=1 63&category_id=17 (produced locally by Saris) Or these: http://www.dero.com/products/meter_hitch/ (produced in Minneapolis) or these: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/11/cyclehoop-turns-every-street-sign-into -a-bike-rack/ (trialled in London on not just meter posts, but on any round post (streetsigns, e.g.) of a similar diameter to parking meter post, so long as it's in a location appropriate to lock a bicycle). ...so that bicycle parking is not reduced when on-street parking is paid for with the multi-space meters rather than at coin-operated meter heads. It is certainly consistent with the recommendations of the Mayor's Platinum Bicycling City Report http://www.cityofmadison.com/trafficEngineering/documents/PlatinumAdopted0408 08sm.pdf but I'd like to hear from city staff and Transit and Parking that this is actually the plan, that the plan will be implemented, and what the timeline is for implementation. Thank you all for your time, Chuck Strawser Pedestrian & Bike Coordinator Commuter Solutions Transportation Services UW-Madison Room 124 WARF 610 Walnut St Madison WI 53726 608-263-2969 www.wisc.edu/trans ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robbie Webber Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:56 AM To: Darryl Jordan Cc: Scott Rose; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bikies] "Meter remains as a courtesy to cyclists" This seems to be the standard treatment to keep the bike parking available: http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/07/01/when-old-parking-meter-poles-go-so-often -does-bike-parking/ I believe about 3-4 years ago, Saris designed a ring to be added to meters in Madison. A sample used to reside in the Bike Fed office. My understanding is that something like this will happen in Madison. When I was still on the Transit and Parking Commission, and we were discussing the multi-space meters, we were very clear that the meters were an important feature for bicyclists, and we wanted a way for the number of "bike parking spots" to not be reduced. The Parking Utility agreed that rings would be added to the posts, or at least knobs on the top, to allow bike to continue to be parked there. The rings actually add bike parking, because two bikes can more easily be parked on each post. With a meter, it is tough, though not impossible, to get two bikes locked to the post. Robbie Webber Bike Walk Madison Steering Committee www.bikewalkmadison.org Join our group on Facebook! On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Darryl Jordan <[email protected]> wrote: If the city was smart, they would leave the meters intact and operable so that civic-minded bicyclists would pay a token amount to park there just to demonstrate to the miffed automobilists that cycists are putting in a (cough) their fair share. I suppose you're going to ask me what I think a "fair share" is and whether there is a significant portion of bicyclists who consider themselves as "civic-minded." My excuse is that it's too bloody early in the morning to figure the details but it sounded good at the time. DJ --- On Wed, 9/22/10, Scott Rose <[email protected]> wrote: From: Scott Rose <[email protected]> Subject: [Bikies] "Meter remains as a courtesy to cyclists" To: "Bikies" <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 12:05 AM When Seattle switched from parking meters to a printed-ticket system, cyclists lost the majority of ad-hoc opportunities to secure their rides. Chicago hasn't made that mistake. http://yfrog.com/mdjs7j -- Scott Rose Vancouver, BC _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org
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