I also carefully surveyed this corner while in my truck around dusk. I felt I could see bikes coming - but I was looking for them.
I was curious what kind of signal bikes have while approaching that intersection. I am familiar with the light at University and Park where cars turning left get an arrow and bikes approaching would have a red. On 11/07/10, Mitchell Nussbaum <[email protected]> wrote: > p { margin: 0; } > > > Last night, driving home, I turned left from University to Randall, and I > took a careful look at the signs on the bike lane divider. They block a > driver from seeing bikes for a few feet along the lane, but generally I had a > good view, and I would have seen any bike coming eastbound before I hit it. > > The lighting is also fairly good there. If an unlit bike had been coming > towards me, and I was REALLY looking for it, I would have seen it. But, in > reality, I wouldn't be concentrating on looking for oncoming bike traffic, > because I'd have many things to consider as I tried to make my way through > that intersection -- the cars behind me, the cars ahead of me, possible > jaywalkers in the crosswalk (this is the campus area, after all), my own > speeds, etc. All the other cars, as well as my speedometer, would be > well-illuminated; so if a dark object me at 15 mph., I might not notice until > it was too late. > > Humans' perceptions and information-processing capacities are limited. If > you want to survive, on a bike, you have to take these limitations into > account. Bikers who ride in the dark without lights apparently don't > understand that. > > From: "Robbie Webber" <[email protected]> > To: "Patrick Lenon" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, November 5, 2010 1:03:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Randall and University - bike-MV crash? > > Yes, the University-Randall intersection was where the crash occurred. I saw > a bike laying on the sidewalk/curb in front of Subway, on the SW corner. The > car with the broken windshield was southbound on Randall between University > and Johnson. It wasn't too hard to figure out what happened. > > > > As to the WRONG WAY sign, those have been added all along the counter-flow > lane divider within the past two years. I am thrilled that they are finally > there, because way too many bicyclists tried to use the eastbound lane as a > two-way bike lane. There is barely enough room for the eastbound bicyclists, > much less people going westbound. > > > > I think the signs along with actual paint in the eastbound lane, have > significantly cut down on the number of people going the wrong way. > > > As to the height of the sign, I've never noticed them obscuring my view of > eastbound bicyclists, but as I mentioned earlier, I rarely make a left off > that part of University, so maybe I'm the wrong person to ask. I do know that > drivers are at all range of heights, both because of their natural sitting > height, and the height of the vehicle seat. We all know that large SUV driver > sit much higher than people in small cars. I agree that putting the signs > very high would put them out of the sight line of many drivers (I have the > same experience of drivers not noticing the lane restriction signs around the > Square.) Moving them only a bit would probably only change which drivers' > view was blocked. > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org -- ‹(•¿•)› _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org
