Guess I should have added a longer qualifier:
"B-cycle isn't really geared toward diehard Madisonian bicyclists as its main
customer base and therefore it was as/more important to include the input of
people who might occasionally bike but don't consider themselves part of the
'bicycling community.'"
That being said, I would prefer that people not refer to a "bicycling
community"
more often than they refer to a "driving community" or "pedestrian community."
Bicycling is a form of transportation that almost anyone can employ; you don't
have to take on the identity of "bicyclist" or "bicycling community member" to
do it.
Haven't been called Kathy in a while ;)
Kathryn Kingsbury
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From: "STRAWSER, Charles" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; Brenda Konkel <[email protected]>
Cc: Bikies <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 10:29:49 AM
Subject: RE: [Bikies] B Cycle locations presentation at PBMVC tonight
Re: “B-cycle isn't really geared toward the diehard Madisonian bikers”
I disagree with Kathy. Certainly there are several other demographics who are
expected to use the system, perhaps more frequently. But I count “diehard
Madisonian bikers” among them.
Assuming there are locations convenient to me, I can envision several scenarios
in which I use bcycle.
For example, I don’t much care for leaving the house to go to work in a
downpour
(snow doesn’t much bother me; I think cycling in the rrain is much more
dangerous since some car drivers exercise extra caution in the snow, but many
or
most seem to drive more recklessly in the rain than on dry pavement, and, guess
what? It rarely ever rains in winter).
When there’s a deluge in the morning I will usually take the bus. But by the
afternoon the weather is often much nicer, and I wish that I had toughed it out
and ridden my bike.
And since I ride all year round, in (almost) any weather, I think most people
would consider me a diehard cyclist.
Re: “Are they asking, or telling”
Bcycle has been asking for the better part of the last two months, which has
prompted a regular discussion between bcycle staff, City TE staff (Tony
Fernandez, who is himself a cyclist), staff of the Bicycle Federation of
Wisconsin’s Madison office (who I think probably qualify as members of the
local
bicycling community too), and occasionally others, including Robbie Webber, the
citizen chair of the PBMVC, and myself, who, in addition to my day job
representing the interests of UW-Madison’s cyclists and pedestrians, am also
part of the Madison bicycling community.
So although not every proposed location (and many of the locations discussed
were originally proposed by members of the bicycling community) has been vetted
by everyone who has been involved (there is still discussion about some on UW’s
campus, e.g.) it’s probably fair to say at this point that bcycle is telling
the
community what has been approved by city staff, folks at UW, Bike Fed of
Wisconsin, and those other members of the bicycling community who have been
involved.
Chuck Strawser
Pedestrian & Bicycle Transportation Planner
Commuter Solutions
TransportationServices
UW-Madison
Room 124 WARF
610 Walnut St
MadisonWI 53726
608-263-2969
www.wisc.edu/trans
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Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:02 AM
Cc: Bikies
Subject: Re: [Bikies] B Cycle locations presentation at PBMVC tonight
Well, B-cycle isn't really geared toward the diehard Madisonian bikers, so I'm
not sure how helpful our input would have been. Just a thought.
Kathryn Kingsbury
www.kathrynkingsbury.com
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kathrynkingsbury
Skype: kathryn.kingsbury
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From:Brenda Konkel <[email protected]>
To: Robbie Webber <[email protected]>
Cc: Bikies <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 9:55:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Bikies] B Cycle locations presentation at PBMVC tonight
Are they asking, or telling? Who approved the first sites that are already in
place?
I'm not sure I disagree with the sites, but I think input from the biking
community would have been really helpful.
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Robbie Webber <[email protected]> wrote:
In addition to the public hearing about needed infrastructure, the
Pedestrian/Bicycle/Motor Vehicle Commission will also have a presentation from
B
Cycle on the planned locations for the kiosks.
Perhaps we can ask about when the system will be fully functional.
5:00 PM in Room 260 of the Municipal Bldg.
Robbie Webber
PBMVC Chair
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