It's a fair question and one that would be helpful to ask at a public meeting so that others can hear the answer...bikers, vehicle operators, and those of us who bike and operate a motor vehicle.
I think that these "protected bike lanes" or "buffered bike lanes" are going to be pretty important to entice new bike commuters who are not convinced to ride on collector and arterial streets. The design is evolving and we can use the capacity of those arterial streets, such as Segoe, which have excess capacity. We also need to capitalize on opportunities to inform motor vehicle operators, many of whom took their drivers training and tests prior to 1960, of these new markings. I am really looking forward to the installation of bike lanes on Hammersley Road, scheduled for next month. These lanes will inform the vehicle operators that Hammersley has two lanes for motor vehicles and two lanes for bike lanes. One side will be have a bike/parking lane. Larry Nelson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric White Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:36 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bikies] Public Hearing to Discuss Segoe Rd. Protected Bike Lane Extension I don't mean for it to be counterproductive. I'm a year-round bike commuter. I also sometimes drive a car on Segoe. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who sometimes drives this street who is honestly confused as to the proper driver behavior at this intersection. Asking a list, say, devoted to driving a car would probably give me a "sure, why couldn't you sit in the bike lane?" response. I thought folks here might have a more insightful (read "correct") answer. My apologies if that's counterproductive. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:27 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > You know, as a bikie list serve this question seems counterproductive. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric White > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:45 PM > To: William Obermeyer > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Public Hearing to Discuss Segoe Rd. Protected Bike > Lane Extension > > Ha. Sorry. Should have noted that my question assumes I'm driving, > not pedaling here. Can I sit in a car in the bike lane hear and turn > right on red? > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:41 PM, William Obermeyer > <[email protected]> wrote: >> There's already a bike lane stub that begins just before the Segoe-Mineral > Point intersection, and whether you can make a safe right on red is a > function of the traffic, which is often heavy. There's some danger of a > right-hook, but _most_ drivers I've encountered seem aware of the problem. >> Even so, I wouldn't do it. I find that stretch of Mineral Point so > miserable for bike riding, and the Mineral Point-Midvale intersection so > unfriendly (on Mineral Point) that I'd sturn right on Keating and take that > eastbound. Even though there's no light at the Keating-Midvale > intersection, it feels more bike friendly (to me) than the Mineral Point - > Midvale intersection. >> (Note: I have not had any problems making right turns from the bike lane > on Segoe north of MPRd - presumably the model for the proposed bike lanes > south of MPRd) >> >> On Jul 8, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Eric White wrote: >> >>> I have a question about this bike lane. If I'm heading N on Segoe and >>> I want to turn R on Mineral Point, can I wait in the bike lane and >>> turn right on red there? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Amanda White <[email protected]> > wrote: >>>> The City is seeking public feedback on extending the Segoe Rd. separated >>>> bike lane past Mineral Point Road to Odana Road. This would eliminate a >>>> through traffic lane in both directions on Segoe. >>>> >>>> It's a great opportunity and I hope some of you will be able to attend > and >>>> voice your support of this project. >>>> >>>> Wed. July 13 >>>> 6:30pm >>>> Westwood Christian Church >>>> 5210 Odana Rd. >>>> >>>> Amanda >>>> ________________________ >>>> Amanda White >>>> Associate Director >>>> Bicycle Federation of Wisconsin >>>> (608) 251-4456 >>>> [email protected] >>>> www.bfw.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Bikies mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bikies mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org
