Robert, Since you asked directly, I think you are missing a few things. If there were no fatalities leading up to the one that spurred Metro to implement the audible turn signals (I am not minimizing a fatality), and no fatalities since the one, then it is specious to say that a change just after the time of the fatality had anything to do with the safety record before or afterward. The people who spearheaded the audible turn signal opposition had a very loud, irregular sound enter into their lives just outside their homes/apartments that went late into the night. Loss of sleep is not a light matter and we know that it leads to morbidity and mortality increases. I am a cyclist, a pedestrian, a transit user and an auto driver. Until the opposition to the audible turn signals became an issue, I did not even know that they were audible turn signals. To me, they were just a weird noise some of the buses made. Because a bus has it's signal on the majority of time that it is maneuvering on busy routes, the turn signal is on almost continuously for many buses and the audible turn signal did not give any clue as to what the bus was doing in relation to its sound. The siren-like sound of the audible turn signal is particularly jarring, and to me it added to the urban cacophony in a really negative way.
That is my 2 cents for now. india WeAreAllMechanics.com [email protected] Stay connected- Follow WAAM on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/We.Are.All.Mechanics> *"How can we learn from our mistakes if we don't first acknowledge them?" * On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Robert F. Nagel <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not indifferent about noise. I'm not indifferent about safety. I'm not > indifferent about the scientific method. > > On the other hand, it's hard to believe that Metro just folded on the > audible turn signals so easily. > > A pedestrian was killed by a bus turning left at University and Lake > streets. > > > http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime_and_courts/pedestrian-dies-after-being-hit-by-metro-bus/article_af7db33c-9cdc-11e0-8558-001cc4c002e0.html > > > http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime_and_courts/uw-library-employee-killed-by-bus-remembered-as-great-storyteller/article_f658af00-9dbd-11e0-a246-001cc4c002e0.html > > Sometime after that, Metro implements an audible turn signal to warn of > busses turning. > > Nobody is killed under similar circumstances since. > > Then, some selfish light sleepers get worked-up about this, even though > the busses probably just go by about once an hour or so after dark for a > couple hours until the busses go to bed for the night, and turn this into a > noise pollution campaign. > > Then, Metro folds on what seemed like and still seems like a good idea. > > Am I missing something? > > --- > > Robert F. Nagel, Attorney > Law Offices of Robert Nagel > [email protected] > www.nagel-law.com > Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor > 30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001 > Madison, WI 53703 > 608-255-1501 office > 608-255-1504 fax > 608-438-9501 cell > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:13 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Many of you will be glad to hear that we no longer have to hear the >> > bleeping buses. >> > Now all the other bus and urban noise confusion is the only thing left >> to >> > deal with :) >> > john >> >> During the same errand by bicycle, I passed by a bus using the audible >> signal, and within minutes was on the east isthmus bikie highway, parallel >> to railway tracks and alongside a train using its whistle. Guess which >> one was intrusive and audibly painful and which one barely had a negative >> effect at all (indeed, no negative effect). >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > >
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