The pedestrian my have been inattentive, but she was crossing WITH a WALK LIGHT and got hit from behind. The real culprit was the mirror bracket which caused a blind spot, which the drivers were trained to be aware of. Also the bus camera showed that the pedestrian was clearly visible prior to the bus turning left. Heavy ped intersection - bus driver be aware.
After the death the bus folks retro-fitted all of their mirrors so they are now supported from the top - eliminating the blind spot. What took metro so long to do that when they were aware of the problem I have no idea. Foreign buses have had top supported mirror mounts for quite a long time. And regarding the sound? I had no idea it was a turning warning until this recent discussion. I thought it meant the bus was stopped and loading and unloading passengers. So for the lay person the sound did not have the intended meaning anyway. my 2 cents... Mike Rewey On 17 Jun 2015 at 16:43, tim wong wrote: I agree the train horns are far more obnoxious than the bus beeps, but there are so many more of the bus beeps. I don't think anyone proved that they were effective at what they were claiming to do. Saying that no one has been run over since is not good "scientific method." A poorly trained bus driver ran over a very inattentive pedestrian, and the rest of us have to hear the irritating beeps numerous times a day. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Robert F. Nagel <[email protected]> wrote: I'm not indifferent about noise. I'm not indifferent about safety. I'm not indifferent about the scientific method. On the other hand, it's hard to believe that Metro just folded on the audible turn signals so easily. A pedestrian was killed by a bus turning left at University and Lake streets. http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime_and_courts/pedestrian-dies-after-being-hit-by- metro-bus/article_af7db33c-9cdc-11e0-8558-001cc4c002e0.html http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime_and_courts/uw-library-employee-killed-by-bus- remembered-as-great-storyteller/article_f658af00-9dbd-11e0-a246-001cc4c002e0.html Sometime after that, Metro implements an audible turn signal to warn of busses turning. Nobody is Robert F. Nagel, Attorney Law Offices of Robert Nagel [email protected] www.nagel-law.com Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor 30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001 Madison, WI 53703 608-255-1501 office 608-255-1504 fax 608-438-9501 cell On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:13 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Many of you will be glad to hear that we no longer have to hear the > bleeping buses. > Now all the other bus and urban noise confusion is the only thing left to > deal with :) > john During the same errand by bicycle, I passed by a bus using the audible signal, and within minutes was on the east isthmus bikie highway, parallel to railway tracks and alongside a train using its whistle.Guess which one was intrusive and audibly painful and which one barely had a negative effect at all (indeed, no negative effect). _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org -- "If we continue to consume the world until there's no more to consume, then there's going to come a day, sure as hell, when our children or their children or their children's children are going to look back on us--on you and me--and say to themselves, 'My God, what kind of monsters were these people?'" --Daniel Quinn _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org
