I agree the train horns are far more obnoxious than the bus beeps, but there are so many more of the bus beeps. I don't think anyone proved that they were effective at what they were claiming to do. Saying that no one has been run over since is not good "scientific method." A poorly trained bus driver ran over a very inattentive pedestrian, and the rest of us have to hear the irritating beeps numerous times a day.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Robert F. Nagel <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not indifferent about noise. I'm not indifferent about safety. I'm not > indifferent about the scientific method. > > On the other hand, it's hard to believe that Metro just folded on the > audible turn signals so easily. > > A pedestrian was killed by a bus turning left at University and Lake > streets. > > > http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime_and_courts/pedestrian-dies-after-being-hit-by-metro-bus/article_af7db33c-9cdc-11e0-8558-001cc4c002e0.html > > > http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime_and_courts/uw-library-employee-killed-by-bus-remembered-as-great-storyteller/article_f658af00-9dbd-11e0-a246-001cc4c002e0.html > > Sometime after that, Metro implements an audible turn signal to warn of > busses turning. > > Nobody is killed under similar circumstances since. > > Then, some selfish light sleepers get worked-up about this, even though > the busses probably just go by about once an hour or so after dark for a > couple hours until the busses go to bed for the night, and turn this into a > noise pollution campaign. > > Then, Metro folds on what seemed like and still seems like a good idea. > > Am I missing something? > > --- > > Robert F. Nagel, Attorney > Law Offices of Robert Nagel > [email protected] > www.nagel-law.com > Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor > 30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001 > Madison, WI 53703 > 608-255-1501 office > 608-255-1504 fax > 608-438-9501 cell > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:13 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Many of you will be glad to hear that we no longer have to hear the >> > bleeping buses. >> > Now all the other bus and urban noise confusion is the only thing left >> to >> > deal with :) >> > john >> >> During the same errand by bicycle, I passed by a bus using the audible >> signal, and within minutes was on the east isthmus bikie highway, parallel >> to railway tracks and alongside a train using its whistle. Guess which >> one was intrusive and audibly painful and which one barely had a negative >> effect at all (indeed, no negative effect). >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > -- "If we continue to consume the world until there's no more to consume, then there's going to come a day, sure as hell, when our children or their children or their children's children are going to look back on us--on you and me--and say to themselves, 'My God, what kind of monsters were these people?'" --Daniel Quinn
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