In my opinion that's definitely one of the unclear cases. The stop sign should not apply to pedestrians, as traffic control devices only apply to vehicles. What the situation for cyclists is I have no idea. Do you not have the right-of-way at all? Do you have to come to a stop, but then you get the right-of-way that a crosswalk confers to you? If a car stopped for a pedestrian, do they have to remain stopped for an approaching cyclist? And how does a person driving know whether there is a stop sign on the bike trail and therefore the normal rules of a crosswalk don't apply?
Harald. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 11:33 AM Eric White <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Harald. That's informative. My confusion stems from what happens > when there's a stop sign for peds and cyclists at the same location there's > a crosswalk. Do I still have the right of way as a ped / cyclist or am I > stopped by the sign, and therefore cross traffic can flow by unimpeded? > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Harald Kliems <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Eric, >> the Bike Fed had a blog post about the issue a while ago: >> http://wisconsinbikefed.org/2014/08/12/crosswalk-question-what-do-bicycles-do/ >> It clears up some questions, but my take-away is that there are lot of >> scenarios where the rules and/or signage create unclear situations. And >> then of course there is the gap between what the rules say and what people >> in cars, on bike, and on foot, actually do... >> >> Harald. >> >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:04 AM Eric White <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Speaking of stop signs, can someone point me to an official explanation >>> of the desired behavior when I, on my bike, encounter a stop sign on the >>> Southwest (or any other) path? That stop sign is in front of the sidewalk >>> (not on the terrace / devil strip). Is the sign asking me to stop for >>> sidewalk traffic or street traffic? Or maybe more to the point, should auto >>> traffic on the street yield to me on my bike, as I wait to cross the >>> street, or am I stopped by the stop sign on the path, waiting for a safe >>> time to cross the street, and auto traffic can proceed without yielding in >>> the same way it would if I was stopped by a stop sign on a cross-street? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Steve Arnold < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> From Fitchburg's City Engineer, in response to my query about the >>>> universally-ignored stop signs where the Capital City State Trail crosses >>>> the rail line along McCoy Road: >>>> >>>> "The OCR [Office of the Commissioner of Railroads] specified yield >>>> signs at the Cap City Trail. The OCR assigned Wisconsin southern the >>>> responsibility to install and maintain the cap city trail signs. I'll let >>>> Wisconsin Southern know to have these changed out." >>>> >>>> We're continuing to become a more Bicycle Friendly Community! >>>> -- >>>> Steve Arnold, Mayor >>>> 2530 Targhee Street, Fitchburg, Wisconsin 53711-5491 >>>> Telephone +1 608 278 7700 · Facsimile +1 608 278 7701 >>>> [email protected] · http://Arnold.US >>>> Become a supporter: like http://facebook.com/SteveArnoldforMayor. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Bikies mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bikies mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>> >> >
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