“Blame the pedestrian all you want,” he says. “You’re just going to end up with more fatalities.”
http://www.citylab.com/cityfixer/2015/10/fighting-the-notion-of-pedestrian-error-in-dallas-street-deaths/410191/ On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Grant Foster <[email protected]> wrote: > This is exactly right. Education (a news story) and Enforcement (ticketing > cyclists who roll through stops for a week) are where we focus our response > even though Engineering (prioritizing foot traffic and then bike traffic on > campus through good street design) is what would most effectively increase > safety. > > University Ave. through downtown/campus needs to be wrestled back away > from MVs. > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:01 AM, STRAWSER, Charles via Bikies < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> The latest issue of Inside UW (an electronic newsletter aimed at UW >> Faculty and Staff) had a story about this, and linked to this UWPD webpage: >> >> http://uwpd.wisc.edu/news/bike-and-pedestrian-vehicle-crashes-on-the-rise/ >> which embedded this video of the pedestrian hit by the car on University >> Ave: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWA7O3Uz7Lc which is just at 13seconds >> is a few seconds longer than the clip shown on the WKOW report. >> >> >> >> I bring this to your attention to point out a few things about how we >> design and build roads, and for whom: >> >> 1) The ped hit in the video was not the first ped to cross, >> even in that short 13 second video – which shows that people really want to >> cross here >> >> 2) We have not provided a crosswalk across University Ave on >> the west side of the intersection with Randall – there’s only one on the >> east side. >> >> >> >> So if you’re standing in front of Genetics/Biotech here: >> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Madison,+WI+53706/@43.0733849,-89.4091943,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sUbQ6i7bAVRwH7wBnbJsZtg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DUbQ6i7bAVRwH7wBnbJsZtg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D4.6931725%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x8807acc6364f309d:0xf8ee108277795837!6m1!1e1 >> >> >> >> And you want to go to, e.g. the Subway across the street, you have to >> walk over to the east side of the intersection with Randall, wait to cross >> University Ave east of Randall, and then wait to cross Randall. 3 sides of >> a square is not nearly as convenient as one side. It’s apparent even >> without the video that people want to cross there, even in the absence of >> the crosswalk. You can clearly see in the google street view I linked above >> a sign prohibiting pedestrians. >> >> >> >> I understand why there’s no crosswalk on the west side of University >> Ave’s intersection – because the traffic on Randall would back up to >> Johnson St if cars had to wait for peds to cross in front of them on the >> west side of the intersection. But this is an excellent example of how our >> roads often place a higher priority on reducing delay for motor vehicles >> than on the safety of other street users. >> >> >> >> I’m sure that the traffic models show that the “Level of Service” of >> Randall (and presumably Johnson when Randall backed up to Johnson) would >> fail if a crosswalk were provided there. But it’s time for us to rethink >> what’s more important – the safety of everyone who uses the street, or the >> functionality of the street for people in cars. >> >> >> >> Think the intersection of University Ave and Randall, and the result of >> the design of this intersection, is an anomaly? >> >> Thankfully, a design like that is less common in Madison than a lot of >> other places in the US. But it’s not unique here. >> >> A few years ago another student pedestrian was hit while running across >> Park St at Spring St to catch the bus (there are bus stops on both sides of >> Park St). I don’t remember all the details, but I do remember that it was >> reported that the pedestrian wasn’t in a crosswalk, and therefore was in >> the wrong. But I went to the site after the fact, and it sure looks to me >> that there’s two crosswalks across Park St there. Only one of them (on the >> north side of the intersection) is marked as a crosswalk, and I suspect >> that the other one (on the south side) is not marked as a crosswalk to >> “encourage” pedestrians to use the marked one on the north side. See the >> site for yourself, here: >> >> >> https://www.google.com/maps/place/N+Park+St+%26+Spring+St,+Madison,+WI+53715/@43.0692741,-89.4011904,94m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x8807accc56391deb:0xbd3b57fb3323184!6m1!1e1 >> >> >> >> >> >> Chuck Strawser >> >> Pedestrian & Bicycle Transportation Planner >> >> Commuter Solutions >> >> UW-Madison Transportation Services >> >> >> >> Visit our University Bicycle Resource Center at Helen C White: >> http://transportation.wisc.edu/transportation/bike_annex.aspx >> >> >> >> How are we doing? Take our customer satisfaction survey at >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/CommSol_CSSurvey >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Bikies [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Grant >> Foster via Bikies >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2015 8:56 AM >> *To:* Dave Minden >> *Cc:* bikies >> *Subject:* Re: [Bikies] Pedestrians & bikes getting hit by cars is >> increasing >> >> >> >> I think this is an important point. It reminds me of this Safe Streets >> press conference from last November: >> http://www.cityofmadison.com/metro/safestreets/ including the >> surveillance video compilation that was presented: >> http://media.cityofmadison.com/Mediasite/Play/0643247b29a24605a8e47fcacb04248f1d >> >> >> >> Copied below are thoughts I shared with Transit & Parking Commission in >> relation to the beeping bus discussion several months ago. Police say >> they'll be stepping up targeting enforcement of people on bikes violating >> traffic laws, even though the majority of injuries to people on foot and >> bike are caused by at-fault motor vehicle operators. What targeted >> enforcement has been done to address this? >> >> >> >> ___________________________ >> >> >> >> I was struck by a few things: 1) there was some very dangerous and bad >> behavior by people on foot, on bike and on skateboard 2) there was some >> great driving by Metro drivers to avoid injury in many of these cases 3) >> the montage didn’t include bad behaviors by other motorists 4) the montage >> didn’t include bad behaviors by Metro drivers. It may not have been >> intentional, but *I think presenting such a compilation as part of a >> Safe Streets initiative paints a picture that the main problem is with >> people on foot, bike, or board behaving badly. I don’t think that’s an >> accurate picture of the reality and feel like this sort of >> misrepresentation can lead us away from clearly understanding the problems >> and coming up with appropriate solutions. I appreciate the attention around >> ped/bike collisions and think it’s appropriate given that 6 out of 7 >> traffic fatalities in 2013 involved a person on foot or on bike. But as >> cited in the press conference, only 42% and 32% respectively involved an at >> fault pedestrian or cyclist. This means that well over half the crashes on >> our roadways involving a pedestrian or cyclist involves an at fault motor >> vehicle operator.* The numbers may be slightly different for Metro >> involved collisions, but a focus on changing ped/bike behavior is probably >> not the highest leverage opportunity. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Dave Minden via Bikies < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> The news said both bike and car were ticketed, yet the whole broadcast >> focused on bikes being a problem! >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> On Monday, October 12, 2015 12:33 AM, Donna Magdalina via Bikies < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Two different incidents of cars hitting people in Milwaukee also in the >> news right now. One pedestrian is dead. >> >> >> UW-Madison Police release video of crashes, say bicycle and pedestrian >> accidents are on the rise >> >> *Oct 09, 2015* >> >> >> >> In just nine days, five people were injured on the UW campus while >> walking or biking. On Friday UW Police released surveillance video of two >> of those crashes. >> >> >> >> >> http://www.wkow.com/story/30227301/2015/10/09/uw-madison-police-say-bicycle-and-pedestrian-crashes-are-on-the-rise >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >> >
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