I think the point is that e-assist does have a motor. It's an electric
motor (not an internal combustion engine).

Then again, my youngest commented last night as we rode past the 'no motor
vehicles' sign on the Military Ridge gate that we probably should get off
the path since we're motors:D

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 5:35 PM Joe Putzer via Bikies <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for the definition.  I get the difference between motorized and
> e-assist and understand the laws as they relate to bike paths in the
> Madison area. Believe me, I see far too many mopeds on the paths on campus
> near where I work. I've also seen one individual with a bicycle with an
> internal combustion engine (motor) that lives near near the SW Commuter
> ride on the path to my chagrin.
>
> Perhaps my previous email wasn't clear enough, sorry if it wasn't.  What
> I'm saying is that I'm fairly certain Trek would not want to put internal
> combustion engines (motors) on BCycles. I'm also certain this suggestion
> would die quickly. You may know something that I don't.  If this is the
> case, please share any information you know.  I don't want internal
> combustion engines (motors) on BCycles anymore than the next person.
>
>  If you are saying you feel that there is no difference between an
> e-assist bicycle and and a bicycle with an internal combustion engine
> (motor),  that's a different conversation entirely.
>
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 4:55 PM, William Hauda via Bikies <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>     No.  I do mean mean motorized. Under existing state law bicycles with
> electric motors are defined as motor bicycles  and they are prohibited from
> being used with motors engaged on all bike ways. Bikeways are defined in
> the statutes to include all designated bike paths and lanes and this is the
> policy that exists for all municipalities, including Madison, Maple Bluff,
> Fitchburg and Middleton. S. 346.79(5) declares " No person may ride a moped
> or *motor bicycle* with the power unit in operation upon a bicycle way."
> This is where the upcoming debate will center. If anyone wants all of the
> statutory references, which have to be read together, I'll be happy to
> provide them.
>
>     Bill Hauda
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Bikies] UW MBA students are doing a survey of biking habits
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:18:52 -0600
> From: Joe Putzer <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> To: William Hauda <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>
> Motorized? I think what you mean is e-assist. Motorized would make Bcycles
> a moped or motorcycle. I don't work for Trek and I don't know of their
> plans, but I'm near certain that they won't be getting into the
> moped/motorcycle business anytime soon. Bcycle or otherwise.
>
> On Feb 18, 2017 12:02 PM, "William Hauda via Bikies" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>     It is kind of a shallow survey, but it's nice to see there's enough
> interest to even do it. Might lead to bigger and better things.
>
>     Word is the fleet of BCYLES may be headed toward being motorized.
> Legislation is being prepared to allow that to happen.
>
>
>
> On 2/18/2017 12:09 AM, Robbie Webber via Bikies wrote:
>
> I believe the question asked how often you user BCYCLE or any other
> bicycle -- like your own.
>
> Robbie Webber
> State Smart Transportation Initiative
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> On Feb 18, 2017 12:05 AM, "tim wong" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I started doing this survey, but it is so poorly designed, the answer I
> would put for the questions were almost never there, i.e., since I don't
> use B-Cycle, whatever that is, I couldn't say "never" to the question of
> how often do I use it?
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Robbie Webber via Bikies <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Help them out by taking the survey:
> https://uwmadison.co1.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_0lhypBvkbLJeQ61
>
>
> Robbie Webber
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