I've seen two recumbent bicycles equipped with home made gasoline "assists." Like taking your lawn mower on a ride. We'll see how this plays out.

On 2/18/2017 5:40 PM, Grant Foster wrote:
I think the point is that e-assist does have a motor. It's an electric motor (not an internal combustion engine).

Then again, my youngest commented last night as we rode past the 'no motor vehicles' sign on the Military Ridge gate that we probably should get off the path since we're motors:D

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 5:35 PM Joe Putzer via Bikies <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Thanks for the definition.  I get the difference between motorized
    and e-assist and understand the laws as they relate to bike paths
    in the Madison area. Believe me, I see far too many mopeds on the
    paths on campus near where I work. I've also seen one individual
    with a bicycle with an internal combustion engine (motor) that
    lives near near the SW Commuter ride on the path to my chagrin.

    Perhaps my previous email wasn't clear enough, sorry if it
    wasn't.  What I'm saying is that I'm fairly certain Trek would not
    want to put internal combustion engines (motors) on BCycles. I'm
    also certain this suggestion would die quickly. You may know
    something that I don't.  If this is the case, please share any
    information you know.  I don't want internal combustion engines
    (motors) on BCycles anymore than the next person.

     If you are saying you feel that there is no difference between an
    e-assist bicycle and and a bicycle with an internal combustion
    engine (motor),  that's a different conversation entirely.

    On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 4:55 PM, William Hauda via Bikies
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            No.  I do mean mean motorized. Under existing state law
bicycles with electric motors are defined as motor bicycles and they are prohibited from being used with motors engaged on
        all bike ways. Bikeways are defined in the statutes to include
        all designated bike paths and lanes and this is the policy
        that exists for all municipalities, including Madison, Maple
        Bluff, Fitchburg and Middleton. S. 346.79(5) declares " No
        person may ride a moped or *motor bicycle* with the power unit
        in operation upon a bicycle way." This is where the upcoming
        debate will center. If anyone wants all of the statutory
        references, which have to be read together, I'll be happy to
        provide them.

            Bill Hauda



        -------- Forwarded Message --------
        Subject:        Re: [Bikies] UW MBA students are doing a survey of
        biking habits
        Date:   Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:18:52 -0600
        From:   Joe Putzer <[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        To:     William Hauda <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>



        Motorized? I think what you mean is e-assist. Motorized would
        make Bcycles a moped or motorcycle. I don't work for Trek and
        I don't know of their plans, but I'm near certain that they
        won't be getting into the moped/motorcycle business anytime
        soon. Bcycle or otherwise.

        On Feb 18, 2017 12:02 PM, "William Hauda via Bikies"
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        wrote:

                It is kind of a shallow survey, but it's nice to see
            there's enough interest to even do it. Might lead to
            bigger and better things.

                Word is the fleet of BCYLES may be headed toward being
            motorized. Legislation is being prepared to allow that to
            happen.



            On 2/18/2017 12:09 AM, Robbie Webber via Bikies wrote:
            I believe the question asked how often you user BCYCLE or
            any other bicycle -- like your own.

            Robbie Webber
            State Smart Transportation Initiative
            www.ssti.us <http://www.ssti.us>
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            608-225-0002 <tel:%28608%29%20225-0002> (cell)

            On Feb 18, 2017 12:05 AM, "tim wong" <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                I started doing this survey, but it is so poorly
                designed, the answer I would put for the questions
                were almost never there, i.e., since I don't use
                B-Cycle, whatever that is, I couldn't say "never" to
                the question of how often do I use it?

                On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Robbie Webber via
                Bikies <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    Help them out by taking the survey:
                    
https://uwmadison.co1.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_0lhypBvkbLJeQ61


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