Setuju sdr. Tiw2. Kelihatannya anda makin wise aja.
Udah dapat kerjaan baru blum?

Rgds,
Rudy
http://worldofdytra.wordpress.com

Tiw Tiw wrote:

>Yah...yah... keknya ginian gak perlu diributin deh. Menurut g personal, adalah 
>hal yang sangat wajar jika Derix minta lewat dia dulu masuk cvnya. Bayangin 
>klo kita apply ke sana, trus ntar ditanya lu tau kerja ini dr mana? Trus kita 
>blg dr Derix, trus si Derix ditanya ama HRD ato bosnya, lu kenal sama orang 
>ini? Ntar si Derix bilang, gak tuh. Dan dijawab lg ama bosnya, tp dia blg 
>dapet kerja ini dari lu. Gimana sih?
>Nah, pasti ntar yg gak nyaman si Derix jg kan. Klo org yg apply kerjanya bagus 
>sih ya syukur banget, tp klo nggak kan, secara gak langsung dia yg gak enak. 
>Maybe...
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>Dan klo masalah, CV tuh privacy banget, g setuju, makanya mati-matian g sumpah 
>benci banget ama yg namanya PT. Maxgain Internationa Future yg oper2an CV 
>orang ke Graha Finesa Berjangka setelah orang tersebut nolak ke sana. Atau 
>mungkin kadang ada jg HRD iseng liat cewe cantik (blom tau dia ada istilah 
>fotogenik di dunia ini), trus diisengin mulu. Eits, segala kemungkinan bisa 
>terjadi. Masih inget kerusuhan 98 kan. Mo reformasi, kenapa pake acara 
>perkosaan dan penjarahan? Gak nyambung kan..
>
>Intinya, klo menurut g Sdr Aay Cosmas gak perlu juga sih statement kek gitu. 
>Inget loh, milis itu komunikasi tulisan. Segala kata-kata yang terbaca mungkin 
>maksudnya sama, tetapi jika dituliskan dengan komposisi bahasa yang berbeda 
>beserta tanda baca yang digunakan, bisa bikin orang yang baca berpikiran yang 
>berbeda-beda. Sama juga kalo kita berbahasa lisan, intonasi dan tingkat 
>nyaringnya kita berbicara bisa bikin orang yang denger berasumsi berbeda.
>
>So, no heart feeling semua yah...jangan sampe ada bentrok di milis. Gak enak 
>bacanya.
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> Tiw² ~
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>----- Original Message ----
>From: Aay Cosmas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:06:11 PM
>Subject: Re: [BinusNet] Lowongan
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>Email2 nya saya satukan ya.
>
>Tapi klo emang niat dia seperti yg Tiw2 & Bodhi bilang, kenapa ga dijelaskan 
>saja ??
>
>Kenapa me-respon email saya dengan seperti yang dibawah ini ??
>
>Bukankah dg adanya penjelasan semua jadi jelas maksudnya.
>Saya lebih menerima penjelasan yg diberikan Tiw2 & Bodhi, dibanding jwban dr 
>Derix Suartyo.
>
>Kan seperti yg sudah saya bilang "... tinggal bilang dapatnya dari Derix 
>Suartyo."
>
>Bukan kah ini berarti ada hal2 lain ?? (udang dibalik batu)
>
>Kok bales email saya dengan nada2 ga enak.
>Ga usa marah lah.
>Namanya juga nanya.
>
>To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com From: "Bodhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>  Add Mobile 
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>kiirm lewat orang yg nawarin, kayak misalnya kantor g lagi buka lowongan, nah 
>temen g ada kenalan g yg minat pasti kirimnya lewat gua, ntar g yg forward-in 
>ke HRD, ato kalo emang CV-nya hardcopy, bisa langsung g bawain ke HRD, salah 
>satu alasan, biar lbh cepet diproses, soalnya dia tau kalo g / orang dalam yg 
>bawa langsung, dibanding misalnya orang luar langsung kirim ke HRD tanpa lewat 
>orang dalam, hanya mungkin ada catatan di dalam / di amplop, refernsi mr. X
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>menurut g paling gitu sih..
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>To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com From: "Tiw Tiw" <tiw_tiw_united@ yahoo.com>  Add 
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>Yah kan bisa jadi juga klo misalnya Sdr Derix adalah agency job  gitu.
>Karena kalau untuk job agency yang ada kontrak dengan suatu perusahaan,
>biasanya memang harus seleksi lewat agency dl.
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>Tiw² ~
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>Derix Suartyo™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: Dear All,
>
>Please kindly ignore my email if you feel not comfortable. Thank you very
>much.
>
>reg,
>Derix Suartyo.
>
>On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Aay Cosmas 
>wrote:
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>>Derix Suartyo,
>>
>>Kenapa harus kirim CV ke kamu dulu ??
>>
>>CV itu kan data pribadi.
>>
>>Klo mo dpt dari kamu kan tinggal bilang dapatnya dari Derix Suartyo.
>>
>>Jadi ga perlu kirim CV ke kamu dulu.
>>
>>Tq
>>
>>Derix Suartyo™ > wrote: Dear All,
>>
>>
>>Ini ada beberapa lowongan di kantor tempat saya bekerja (one of the biggest
>>Japanesse IT company; All positions will be based in Singapore), jika ada
>>yang berminat, bisa forward CV nya ke saya, nanti saya forward lagi ke HR
>>yang bersangkutan. Terima Kasih. (tolong dicantumkan di subject nya posisi
>>yang di apply)
>>
>>Senior Pre-Sales Engineer (Permanent)
>>Job Scope:
>>• Preparation of proposal, sizing up of project, consultation and
>>recommendation of Networking, IP Telephony, Sever/Storage and Security
>>solutions
>>• Perform Proof-of-concept (POC) if required.Create and ensure proper
>>documentation.
>>• Create and ensure proper documentation for all projects that he/she is
>>involve
>>Requirements:
>>- 5+ years experience in IT network, Server/Storage and security equipment
>>- Certification preference, Minimum CCNP and CCDP
>>- Experience with proposal and consultation of IT projects
>>- Strong Quality Assurance background
>>- Experience of system integrator (SI) environment is advantages
>>- Ability to work in a high stress and fast-paced work environment
>>
>>Senior Technical Specialist (Permanent)
>>Job Scope:
>>• Manage a real time production network consisting of Cisco routers and
>>switches, Nortel and Cisco VPN, Checkpoint and Net screen firewalls
>>• Manage production systems for Reuters Editorial including Wire Engine,
>>FATs, Market Data systems, Decade/S77 etc
>>• Provide 2nd/3rd level support for all networking equipments, production
>>systems, and firewalls
>>• Lead/implement technical projects based on business requirements
>>Requirements:
>>• At least 5 years of working experience as a 2nd/3rd level network
>>engineer
>>• At least 5 years of working experience with Cisco routers and switches
>>• Firewall experience is a must (Checkpoint and Juniper/net screen
>>experience desired)
>>• Familiar with server virtualization, thin client, MPLS, VOIP, and VPN
>>technology
>>• Knowledge of ITIL and TRIOLE is a plus
>>• Strong background in WAN and LAN networking , TCP/IP, DNS, Cisco routers
>>and switches, routing protocols
>>• Work with global helpdesk and other resolver groups to reso work
>>architecture and topologies
>>• Solid working knowledge of Internet security and Firewalls, Intranet and
>>server environments, Wireless technologies is required. Microsoft Active
>>Directory knowledge and HP/Sun experience highly desired
>>
>>Pre Sales Solutions Consultant
>>Job Scope:
>>• Responsible in providing pre-sale support to a pool of sales force
>>• Working closely with the sales as well as other business partner in
>>articulating
>>solutions to customers
>>• Key responsibilities include gather technical requirement, design and
>>solutions architect, proof of concept and presentation to high level
>>audiences
>>• Lead and advise on technical reviews and approve technical solutions
>>deliverables
>>Requirements:
>>• The candidate should possess a Degree/Diploma in IT Computer Science
>>• Minimum 2-3 years' pre/post sale experience in Microsoft Windows
>>NT/2000/2003, Redhat Linux or SUN Solaris or HP UNIX platform.
>>• Must have working experience in Systems infrastructure such as Servers,
>>Storage Area Network/Network Attached Storage & Tape Libraries etc. A good
>>Knowledge of IT infrastructure design with essential knowledge of backup
>>architecture and strategy would be necessary.
>>• Good knowledge of IT architecture and solutions such as Microsoft Windows
>>technologies, hardware clustering/load balancing, MS SQL/Oracle Databases,
>>AD Directory, VMware, Citrix, Microsoft Exchange, etc would be essential.
>>• Knowledge of IBM Tivoli, CA BrightStor Backup, Veritas Backup,
>>Virtualization concepts, etc would be advantageous.
>>
>>Senior Network Engineer (CCIE) (Permanent)
>>Job Scope:
>>• Immediate contributor in post sales installation / commissioning /
>>maintenance
>>support / pre-sales support of IT Network projects
>>• Installation and configuration of Network Infrastructure and Security
>>products
>>• Responsible for commissioning and testing of the installed system
>>• Create and ensure proper documentation.
>>Requirements:
>>• 6+ years experience in installation and setting up / support of IT
>>network
>>and
>>Security Networks
>>• Certification required; CCIE, Optional; CISSP, PMP
>>• Well-versed with the existing LAN/WLAN/WAN networking technologies
>>• Experience with implementation IT Network projects
>>• Able to provide holistic technical consultation to customers
>>• Solid Quality Assurance background
>>• Experience of system integrator (SI) environment is advantages
>>• Ability to work in a fast-paced work environment
>>
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