> Please read my email more carefully; the replay threat would be moot because 
> there would be no alternative chain to replay the TX on,

In order to *get to that point*, you need >51%.

Not only that, but, if you started out with <51%, then you need >>51% in order 
to *catch up* and replace the large number of blocks added to the legacy chain 
in the mean time.

So, since >51% is _required_ for BIP148 to succeed (and likely >>51%)... you 
might as well do as SegWit did originally, or lower the threshold to 80% or 
something (as BIP91 does).

Without replay protection at the outset, BIP148, as far as I can tell, isn't a 
threat to miners.

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> On Jun 6, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Kekcoin <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Please read my email more carefully; the replay threat would be moot because 
> there would be no alternative chain to replay the TX on, as the non-148 chain 
> would have been reorganized into oblivion.
> 
> 
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>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Replay attacks make BIP148 and BIP149 untennable
>> Local Time: June 7, 2017 3:26 AM
>> UTC Time: June 7, 2017 12:26 AM
>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> To: Kekcoin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Anthony Towns <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, 
>> [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> 
>> I don't know what you mean by "render the replay threat moot."
>> 
>> If you don't have replay protection, replay is always a threat. A very 
>> serious one.
>> 
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>> Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing 
>> with the NSA.
>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 5:19 PM, Kekcoin <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm, that's not the difference I was talking about. I was referring to the 
>>> fact that using "post-chainsplit coinbases from the non-148 chain" to 
>>> unilaterally (ie. can be done without action on the 148-chain) taint coins 
>>> is more secure in extreme-adverserial cases such as secret-mining reorg 
>>> attacks (as unfeasibly expensive they may be); the only large-scale (>100 
>>> block) reorganization the non-148 chain faces should be a resolution of the 
>>> chainsplit and therefore render the replay threat moot.
>>> 
> 

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