Just a remark (and nothing more): the guys from India might tell you a
different story. When you can hire a secretary for $100/month, and where a
family have the "value" of a .TV registration to spend on food for one
month, things seem different.
- Csongor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Paynter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Baris TUNA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ramy Nabil"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: Domain for 9.95 ?
> >Since we buy at 10USD and sell for more, we can not
> >compete with other retailers selling for 8, 9, 10 and
> >11USD per domain, no strings attached.
>
> These people are selling at a loss. Few people make money solely on
> domain name sales. The market is too competitive. We sell ours at US$19
> and after administrative overhead, it is barely break even. Then we
> sell them an email package and that's how we make money.
>
> TuCows pays VerSign US$6 per domain/year, plus they have their own
> administrative overhead including the excellent support they give to us
> resellers. That costs money. They are also entitled to some profit
> margin. I would like to see the wholesale costs for the gTLD names drop
> to $8 or $9, but realistically, it won't make a huge difference to my
> bottom line.
>
> -Eric P.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> arctic bears - the internet - your way.
> email hosting from US$8/month, domains from US$19/year.
> http://www.arcticbears.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Baris TUNA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ramy Nabil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bizops-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:47:07 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: Domain for 9.95 ?
>
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >I have been reading all messages on pricing for a
> >while. I want to comment on this issue by our customer
> >experiences.
> >
> >Since we buy at 10USD and sell for more, we can not
> >compete with other retailers selling for 8, 9, 10 and
> >11USD per domain, no strings attached.
> >
> >We have many other costs added to this 10USD, We are
> >located in IStanbul, Turkey.
> >
> >If we assume we buy for 10USD and sell for 10USD. We
> >add 17%VAT tax, and we pay %15-%30 tax on the
> >price(10USD)since we cannot deduct the cost at our
> >accounting dept. So with a 3 dollar loss, we sell the
> >domain for 11.70USD. Please tell me how can i afford
> >loosing customers, while my competitors offer 8 or
> >9USD per domain.
> >
> >I appraciate the OpenSRS site and services, but the
> >wholesale price would be 5.-USD per domain, and we may
> >be asked to sell less than or up to 10.-USD, by that
> >way we can compete and sell more domains, more
> >services, and at the end, OpenSRS will dominate and
> >get more cash flow.
> >
> >Please dont tell me you cant compete, or survive by
> >5.-USD per domain, because these domains are virtual
> >and all the process is automated. If you cut the price
> >by half, and quadruple sales than you will GAIN 2
> >times more. WE will gain 2 times more by selling 4
> >times more :-))
> >
> >Thanks for your time,
> >
> >Kind Regards,
> >
> >Baris TUNA
> >www.aktif.net
> >
> >
> >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> Good question, this is exactly the problem. Anyway,
> >> as much as OpenSRS would
> >> like us to believe, there is little evidence that
> >> bulkregister is going
> >> bankrupt.
> >>
> >> Ashish
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Ramy Nabil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:33 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Domain for 9.95 ?
> >>
> >>
> >> > I agree with you William,
> >> >
> >> > But how to make customers think in the same way
> >> while they are price
> >> oriented and in the
> >> > same time the ICANN protects their domains in case
> >> any of these registrar
> >> went out of
> >> > business.
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Ramy Nabil
> >> >
> >> > "William X. Walsh" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hello Omar,
> >> > >
> >> > > Tuesday, April 17, 2001, 10:18:15 AM, Omar
> >> Chavez wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Though it's been discussed to length
> >> previously, I think is time
> >> OpenSRS
> >> > > > revises its pricing structure downward to
> >> accommodate market
> >> realities.
> >> > > > If other registrars can manage charging the
> >> END USER $8.95 (with all
> >> the
> >> > > > high costs associated in reaching those end
> >> users), there is no reason
> >> > > > why OpenSRS can give us resellers a price
> >> closer to $8. Coming from
> >> > > > Tucows -which has traditionally been known as
> >> an open source heaven,
> >> and
> >> > > > provided the low cost of acquiring us
> >> resellers, there must be a way
> >> for
> >> > > > them to better compete and dominate the market
> >> while helping us all.
> >> > >
> >> > > > Last week we had a heated discussion in our
> >> company regarding the
> >> > > > possible switch from OpenSRS to Godaddy.com,
> >> since they'd charge us
> >> much
> >> > > > less than OSRS and their interface is as good
> >> as or superior... we
> >> > > > stayed course mainly because we believe in
> >> long-term relationships,
> >> but
> >> > > > I'm not sure next time around I'd be as
> >> willing to defend a good
> >> partner
> >> > > > who is too blind and deaf to the market it
> >> serves.
> >> > >
> >> > > Considering that OpenSRS is the fastest growing
> >> registrar, I'd say
> >> > > that they are doing a good job serving the
> >> market, and that the
> >> > > customers think the same.
> >> > >
> >> > > We can have a company who is in it for the short
> >> term, and is
> >> > > unstable, and quite possibly be at risk for
> >> going out of business by
> >> > > competing over a matter of a dollar or two over
> >> transactions, or we
> >> > > can have a company who is in it for the long
> >> term, and balances
> >> > > stability and price, and has found the right
> >> combination.
> >> > >
> >> > > If you are trying to make a living off of domain
> >> registration, then
> >> > > perhaps you should become an ICANN Accredited
> >> registrar, since that is
> >> > > the only way you can even try to compete on
> >> price.
> >> > >
> >> > > But don't expect decent us to give you decent
> >> odds at surviving at
> >> > > that level of the game.
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Best regards,
> >> > > William
> >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >
> >
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