>Since we buy at 10USD and sell for more, we can not
>compete with other retailers selling for 8, 9, 10 and
>11USD per domain, no strings attached.
These people are selling at a loss. Few people make money solely on
domain name sales. The market is too competitive. We sell ours at US$19
and after administrative overhead, it is barely break even. Then we
sell them an email package and that's how we make money.
TuCows pays VerSign US$6 per domain/year, plus they have their own
administrative overhead including the excellent support they give to us
resellers. That costs money. They are also entitled to some profit
margin. I would like to see the wholesale costs for the gTLD names drop
to $8 or $9, but realistically, it won't make a huge difference to my
bottom line.
-Eric P.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Baris TUNA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ramy Nabil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bizops-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:47:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Domain for 9.95 ?
>
>Hello,
>
>I have been reading all messages on pricing for a
>while. I want to comment on this issue by our customer
>experiences.
>
>Since we buy at 10USD and sell for more, we can not
>compete with other retailers selling for 8, 9, 10 and
>11USD per domain, no strings attached.
>
>We have many other costs added to this 10USD, We are
>located in IStanbul, Turkey.
>
>If we assume we buy for 10USD and sell for 10USD. We
>add 17%VAT tax, and we pay %15-%30 tax on the
>price(10USD)since we cannot deduct the cost at our
>accounting dept. So with a 3 dollar loss, we sell the
>domain for 11.70USD. Please tell me how can i afford
>loosing customers, while my competitors offer 8 or
>9USD per domain.
>
>I appraciate the OpenSRS site and services, but the
>wholesale price would be 5.-USD per domain, and we may
>be asked to sell less than or up to 10.-USD, by that
>way we can compete and sell more domains, more
>services, and at the end, OpenSRS will dominate and
>get more cash flow.
>
>Please dont tell me you cant compete, or survive by
>5.-USD per domain, because these domains are virtual
>and all the process is automated. If you cut the price
>by half, and quadruple sales than you will GAIN 2
>times more. WE will gain 2 times more by selling 4
>times more :-))
>
>Thanks for your time,
>
>Kind Regards,
>
>Baris TUNA
>www.aktif.net
>
>
>--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Good question, this is exactly the problem. Anyway,
>> as much as OpenSRS would
>> like us to believe, there is little evidence that
>> bulkregister is going
>> bankrupt.
>>
>> Ashish
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ramy Nabil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: Domain for 9.95 ?
>>
>>
>> > I agree with you William,
>> >
>> > But how to make customers think in the same way
>> while they are price
>> oriented and in the
>> > same time the ICANN protects their domains in case
>> any of these registrar
>> went out of
>> > business.
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Ramy Nabil
>> >
>> > "William X. Walsh" wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hello Omar,
>> > >
>> > > Tuesday, April 17, 2001, 10:18:15 AM, Omar
>> Chavez wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Though it's been discussed to length
>> previously, I think is time
>> OpenSRS
>> > > > revises its pricing structure downward to
>> accommodate market
>> realities.
>> > > > If other registrars can manage charging the
>> END USER $8.95 (with all
>> the
>> > > > high costs associated in reaching those end
>> users), there is no reason
>> > > > why OpenSRS can give us resellers a price
>> closer to $8. Coming from
>> > > > Tucows -which has traditionally been known as
>> an open source heaven,
>> and
>> > > > provided the low cost of acquiring us
>> resellers, there must be a way
>> for
>> > > > them to better compete and dominate the market
>> while helping us all.
>> > >
>> > > > Last week we had a heated discussion in our
>> company regarding the
>> > > > possible switch from OpenSRS to Godaddy.com,
>> since they'd charge us
>> much
>> > > > less than OSRS and their interface is as good
>> as or superior... we
>> > > > stayed course mainly because we believe in
>> long-term relationships,
>> but
>> > > > I'm not sure next time around I'd be as
>> willing to defend a good
>> partner
>> > > > who is too blind and deaf to the market it
>> serves.
>> > >
>> > > Considering that OpenSRS is the fastest growing
>> registrar, I'd say
>> > > that they are doing a good job serving the
>> market, and that the
>> > > customers think the same.
>> > >
>> > > We can have a company who is in it for the short
>> term, and is
>> > > unstable, and quite possibly be at risk for
>> going out of business by
>> > > competing over a matter of a dollar or two over
>> transactions, or we
>> > > can have a company who is in it for the long
>> term, and balances
>> > > stability and price, and has found the right
>> combination.
>> > >
>> > > If you are trying to make a living off of domain
>> registration, then
>> > > perhaps you should become an ICANN Accredited
>> registrar, since that is
>> > > the only way you can even try to compete on
>> price.
>> > >
>> > > But don't expect decent us to give you decent
>> odds at surviving at
>> > > that level of the game.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Best regards,
>> > > William
>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>
>
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