On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 04:31:52PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> > this is somewhat problematic.  The netwm spec says that a common step in
> > "window activation" is to raise the window and I have implemented it this way
> > at the moment in cvs.
> I'm very sorry to hear that.  This is one of the core features I use in
> Blackbox.
Another related question (a question about definition, really):  Does
Alt-Tabbing past a window activate it (for a brief moment)?  If so and
you want to stick to the letter of the netwm spec, I would like to see
windows put back in their place after Alt-Tabbing past them (not easy,
I would think).  If not, then I say that, yes, windows should be raised
upon activation but not by Alt-Tabbing past.

> > I fail to understand the need to have a window that is
> > focused but unusable because it is covered.
> I will position two windows so that I can read the
> information in one and type into the other.  This normally means that
> the window I'm reading from is unfocused, but topmost, and that the
> window I am typing in is focused, but not topmost.
I do this as well (I usually explicitly raise/lower windows.).
Sometimes I even like to leave the keyboard focus on a top-most window
and use the mouse in a window partially obscured by it.  True, this is
weird, rare, and not amazingly useful; I wouldn't weep if I lost the
ability to do it.

> > If you look at window switching
> > on other operating systems and other wms in unix land you will see that
> > raising is common practice.
Right.  But that's only raising at the end of an Alt-Tab-Tab-Tab sequence.
I don't want a window I'm not interested in to auto-raise just because
it was on the pop-up list of windows before the one that caught my
interest.

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