Peter Peltonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 00:26, Jan Schaumann wrote:

[ ~/.blackbox/Styles ]
 
> Because that directory was there! I did not create it. At least now:
> Maybe it is some ancient ruin from my previous Blackbox experiments...?
> >From your words I take that it was not created by default by the new
> Blackbox installation. 

Per default, blackbox does not create any files except for
~/.blackboxrc, I believe (thank $deity).  So somehow it must have been
created there by a faulty style (as blackbox(1) explains) or some such.

> Well, communication is sometimes a hard task to achieve. If one should
> be able to run xclock from .xsession, why not bsetbg?

Oh, you _can_ run that from your ~/.xsession.  But if you call blackbox
afterwards (as usually is the case), it will call it again and thus
annihilate your changes.  You could call it after blackbox and 'exec'
some other app (maybe a small xterm) -- this has the advantage (under
some circumstances) that if blackbox is exited (or even aborts), you
don't loose your X session.

> I think my logic was not that poor you made it to seem be... 

As I said, from your posting it was not clear if you had trouble
starting blackbox, setting the background of the login-screen or setting
the background once you were logged in.  At least not to me.

> And that part of login problem is not yet solved: I do not know how to
> automatically start apps at RH8 after I login into X. Only place that
> works is /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/Blackbox, but as that is shared by all
> users it is not very convient. But I guess this is not a Blackbox
> problem, but a RH problem.

Well, if you want to provide your users with a standard Blackbox option,
it should probably not include any applications and instead possibly
execute a file ~/.blackbox_startup (or whatever you want your users to
use) if it finds it before it starts blackbox.  This is something that
you'd do on a system-wide level for all users.

For yourself, you should probably create a simple ~/.xsession with
whatever apps you want to start up (as explained in the FAQ) and choose
whatever option from the login manager that executes this file.
Depending on your login manager and its configuration, this may be
'default', 'xsession' or 'failsafe' (even though the latter usually just
opens an xterm).

> Ah, yes. I can specify the menu I use in my .blackboxrc. That is good. 
> 
> IMHO it would still be most simplest if one could just specify the name
> of the background image in .blackboxrc.

What if you don't want an image, but a gradient?  Or if you want the
image to be scaled?  Or multiple images as a repeating pattern?  There
are many ways to set the background, which is probably why this
functionality is taken out of blackbox and instead is the responsibility
of another application.

-Jan

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