On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Jim Knoble wrote:

> Circa 2001-Jul-25 14:25:43 +0200 dixit Mark Weinem:
>
> : Implementing a close button would be a Regression! Why should we
> : need a *button* if we can right-click on the menu? So with Blackbox
> : the whole menu is the button and I like that.
>
> Ah, but without a handle, a glass door looks like a window.  Bad
> design.  I'm not necessarily saying i think that the current
> [RightClick] on the titlebar should go away; that's up to Jeff and
> Brad.  But the *visual affordance* of the button is fully half of
> what's important:  If you don't know there's a door there, what good is
> the door?

This glass door analogy has worn a bit thin.  Its not really as applicable
to this situation as you make it out to be.  A menu is distinct in its own
right, and the universal way to close any menu is the same at present,
unlike under your proposed system.

> : No need to make Blackbox more looking and behaving like Window Maker
> : ;-)
>
> I catch your sarcasm, but on a serious note, it's not a particularly
> good idea to reject good design simply because of it's apparent source.

So go use windowmaker and leave us with a simple wm.  Windowmaker is a
really nice window manager; blackbox draws a lot of ideas from it and the
NeXT interface.  But that doesn't mean everything windowmaker does it good
either.

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