One thing I just noticed is that QS offers to hide the Clipboard as you mentioned. What bothers me is that I can't just paste #2, #3, #4 of the Clipboard without the mouse. I have to paste #2 (Ctrl+2), then click on the Clipboard and then I can paste #3 (super slow). For some reason the Clipboard is deselected after the pasting. Cmd+Tab doesn't work since I don't have QS visible in the Dock and Application Switcher/Witch and want to keep it that way. Is there any way to change this?
On Mar 15, 6:04 pm, Chris Cairns <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mar 15, 2009, at 10:14 PM, Howard Melman wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Chris Cairns wrote: > >> On Mar 15, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Howard Melman wrote: > > >>> Out of curiousity, can you describe what Butler does differently > >>> from QS in this regard? > > >> Surely. (I m sorry that no Howard Melman has written a manual for > >> Butler, so you will have to bear with my explanation). > >> Butler allows us to make a container (Custom pasteboard) which can > >> be opened up as a menu near them mouse or any screen corner. This > >> container can be assigned a shortcut and it list all its items > >> (text, images etc) in a menu. Butler offers the facility to set up > >> a trigger either to the menu or to the individual items of the menu > >> or to both. Also, all the items of the menu can be executed > >> sequentially and a trigger can be set to do this. > > >> Also there are plenty of presets like "Paste recent pasteboard 1" > >> "Paste recent pasteboard 2" > >> "Paste as plain text" etc > > >> Then there is a separate "keystrokes" which accepts any keys that > >> can be thrown into anywhere or used to paste text. > >> After all this, there is also a separate "Text" smart item > >> (probably to separate only plain text triggers). > >> And remember, there are no trigger scoping issues which really > >> multiplies the importance of all this when compared to quicksilver. > > >> So if you are impressed, please start writing a manual for Butler. > >> If you are not i m willing to continue the debate. > > > No debate, I'm just curious as to features in other products I'm not > > aware of. Let's see if I understand this... > > > So Butler offers multiple pasteboards (sounds like multiple > > "clipboard storage" in QS terminology or maybe "shelf"). > > (ok, no debate) Its not just the feature, its the simplified > experience which which you can create the custom pasteboard. In > quicksilver, clipboard storage, clipboard history and shelf have their > own unobvious ways of putting items into them and then using those > items. Some items have to be deleted in a particular way and some have > to be placed in a particular way. Also, the issue of having Clipboard > History and Shelf as a window which has to be moved to a screen corner > (and thereby making it vulnerable to be opened even if accidentally > mouse is dragged to the corner). Or if not placed into screen corner, > the entire quicksilver pane has to be opened. No such issues with > Butler. Butler opens a very neat menu when trigger is pressed and > closes itself after the paste is complete. > > > If QS had that, then the existing facility to create hotkey triggers > > and mouse triggers would mirror how Butler provides access to them. > > Though the "execute all" function isn't in QS, QS does have > > "internal commands" (in the catalog under QS) to "paste clip store > > [1,2,3...]" so it's easy to create a trigger to do this. > > yes, i know about it. i never meant to say QS does not have any of the > features that Butler has. I wrote Butler is better when we look at > usability, stability etc > > > > > QS doesn't have a paste as plain text and that would be useful. > > People have written scripts using pbpaste and pbcopy to enable this > > for what's on the clipboard but a new action would be simplest. > > > Keystrokes sounds like the Type Text action (with pehaps a simpler > > way to specify modified keys like control-c. > correct. > > I'm not sure what the "text smart item" is or what the Butler > > trigger scoping features are. > > Trigger scoping allows to enable trigger in specific applications or > disable them in specific applications. They work perfectly. I really > would like you to use Butler for yourself. You will agree with the > ease of use and convinced of its stability while using triggers.
