On 26 June 2010 20:38, DJ Lucas <[email protected]> wrote:
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> The last decision was that we would prepare for BLFS-6.5.  I personally
> have no interest in working towards a BLFS-6.5 release, but others may
> differ.  We could create a branch if there is still interest in
> continuing along that goal, and now would be a good time that Gnome is
> completed and deemed stable.
>

 Having been burned in 6.4, and lacking a 6.5 system, I too have no interest
in 6.5.  But perhaps the current svn could be released "warts and all" for
6.5 with a note that packages NOT labelled as known to build with 6.5 are
left as an exercise for the reader ?  It would be educational, maybe we could
add a list of places to look for non-BLFS patches and build instructions.

  I've got a 6.6 system that I was intending to keep as a sort of "long term
support" version (because it uses a long-term stable kernel), but I'm going
to have to rebuild that because I can't seem to get html5 working on
youtube with midori on gnome-2.28 [ and I just drop everything into /usr on
my own builds - that might be about to change :) ]

 But equally, current LFS-svn looks interesting : the x86_64 kernel problem
looks as if the fix should hit a released kernel soon, and the glibc build fixes
work (it always scares me when current glibc has to be patched to build).
But at the moment I don't have any experience of running gcc-4.5.  I expect
some degree of pain, just like for every previous minor gcc version increase.

> I'd like to start working on current LFS-SVN.  I haven't committed
> anything in so long because of this and it is about time for a new
> desktop build.  Still working on my testing server which is somewhere
> between 6.6 and current (some package updates to 6.6) so I can commit to
> cyrus-sasl, postfix, openldap, samba, php, mysql, openssl, httpd,
> dovecot, etc.  I do not see that anything will conflict with current SVN
> and I'll want to do a rebuild before it goes live anyway.
>

 I'm not commenting on the $GNOME_CONFIG question, it's not
something I've ever looked at, and I'm happy to go with whatever is
decided.

 If we do go for either 6.6 or svn, the SBU/space measurements become
a problem - x86_64 is fully supported in LFS.  I happen to only build
x86_64 these days, and I'm fairly sure one or two packages need special
action to build correctly (e.g. passing -fPIC).  I can't see any editor
feeling disposed to build on both arches as a matter of course.

 If we move to LFS-svn, the tag "known to build against LFS-svn" is
not particularly useful because things change.  Arguably, a pair of
"built on x86/x86_64 using LFS-svn-ccyymmdd" tags might have a
little purpose, but doing that would only really show when a package was
last tested.  After Alexander has long departed, I'm in agreement that
there is *too much* in the book - it can't all be kept up to date for lack of
interest.

Meanwhile, I'm off to update my buildscripts for icecat-3.6.4 (trying this
instead of firefox for political reasons ) now that I've finally got it building
on 32-bit ppc64.  Only took 94 minutes to build, and that was after I'd
found the magic words to get through xptc and then ipc.  I think I might
be a bit "the worse for wear" by the time I've built and installed it using
my script ;-)

Whatever is decided, I'll personally be trying to build something based on
LFS with gcc-4.4.3 on my ppc64 before I move on (already done it on the
ppc laptop, but ppc64 needs a full biarch toolchain so it can build its
kernel - I'm expecting fun).  I'm also committed to many non-computing
things, so don' get the impression I'll suddenly jump back in.

ĸen
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 We will sternly refuse to take of strong waters, will we not ?  Yes,
we will not.  By no manner of means. (Joyce, "Ulysses")
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