On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 11:53:08PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Ken Moffat wrote:
> >
> >BTW - did I ever mention how much I hate this stuff ?
> 
> The only thing I can say is that we appreciate it.

 Thanks.  I guess that what I actually hate, apart from the
presumption that binaries are the way to go, is the general
fragility - much of it is still under development, which is good,
but the changes in one part can break something else and
documentation on the web is often out of date.

> 
> BTW, did you ever install a commercial distro, say debian or fedora and test
> their versions of xindy and asymptote.
> 
>   -- Bruce

 The asymptote problem is a build problem during the install.  It
only applies on recent builds (so, something after LFS/BLFS-7.6 has
broken it).

 For xindy : yes, I used distros in qemu -

 I did not get around to testing fedora (I _know_ that their
biblatex stuff has been broken for a few years because they did not
ship biber (too many perl deps) - found bug(s) for that, and
somebody had user-supplied versions at fedora for F20.  F21 is now
out, but I don't think I've got time at the moment.

 For debian-derived, I used xubuntu-14.04 32-bit with texlive-full
(I'm 99% sure that is now texlive-2014).  There, xindy works.  FWIW,
asy and biber were not present - I'm sure they are available in
separate packages, but I have not got back to looking for them.

  I also used the base xubuntu-14.04 to install the 2014 binaries
from texlive rather than from the distro, using their preferred
/usr/local/texlive (and also with added symlinks from /usr : I was
testing how to find texlive OTF/TTF fonts not known to fontconfig,
but I've now got a better way) and again xindy worked.

 I also tried slackbuilds on slackware64.  There, xindy failed.

ĸen
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