On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 12:18:08PM -0600, Roger Frost wrote: > Hi Armin, > > >We don't support Package Users in any way in any of the books. > > It's been in LFS for quite a while, so this is a pretty strong statement. >
Over the years, it has caused a lot of weird and wonderful build problems. When I asked if you were using a package manager, that accursed hint was what I was thinking of - but you seemed to have better knowledge than me about how to track down exactly what was happening, and eventually you got there. If you omit *recommended* dependencies, problems are likely. Sometimes, these are a matter of choice (e.g. I omit some gnome dependencies for the few parts of gnome which I still use, and I have to pass an extra switch to configure in at least one package). Recently, we do not seem to have seen many people using package users - I believe that somebody, or some people, was/were trying to rework the hint but I do not remember the details. I do not monitor the hints list, so no idea if anything happened. And yes, sqlite is one of the first BLFS packages in my current build order. > Anyway, that's unfortunate, I feel that Package Users (or "User Based > Management") should be supported in all of the books. > I suspect it comes down to "what do you mean by *supported* ?" Replies usually only come from a few people, and for a lot of problems nobody on the list has any idea where the problem comes from. Thanks you for documenting what caused your problem, it may be useful to anybody else who sees a similar issue. > After reviewing all of the options for package management that the book > highlights, this one makes the most sense to me. Being "unique to LFS" was > also intriguing. ...And it's not that difficult once you get used to it > (unless of course a package doesn't do what its supposed to). > But because it is specific to BLFS, only our users see the specific problems - google can only find help if others have already hit a similar problem. > To each his or her own, but at any rate I believe it deserves as much merit > as DESTDIR. > For BLFS editors, DESTDIR is usually useful when testing and measuring a package - for a few, it still needs to be run as root, for others, particularly using QT, it needs a variant (check the wiki pages - I have made notes in some of them), and for a very few other packages it does not work at all. Because we do this, we can add notes as things become apparent. ĸen -- Nanny Ogg usually went to bed early. After all, she was an old lady. Sometimes she went to bed as early as 6 a.m. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
