Hi Andre,
I suspect that Jackie may work for multiple clients who have their
individual networks and configurations. My brother-in-law does the
same kind of work that I think Jackie does, and he also cleans up
these things the way she does. He says it is because each of the
networks is different and he finds it faster. He also said that
everyone has their preferred way of doing things, and if he were
working on his own network, he might very well do it your way if he
didn't have an alternative.
Recently Andre Williams wrote:
Interesting. My nephew works for our city's power company and he says they
don't bother with any of those procedures as they take too long. He says his
tools consist of a bag full of operating system images and a thumb drive
with hundreds of serial keys including a password override for terminated
employees that "can't" remember their passwords. He said he carries a very
durable but very slow 10-hour battery life laptop when he's out on the
streets, but when it comes to monitoring computers at work he uses a laptop
that breaks into 2 parts and becomes a type of mobile unit.
Andre
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie McBride" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
Andre, I *routinely* fix these problems because that is what I do for
a living. As I said, I don't connect my computer that I use to repair
others' machines to a network & therefore the integrity of that
network is not in question. I'm trained both in computer forensics as
well as in malware removal. While I agree that there are times when
reformatting the operating system is necessary, it often is not. It
depends on the type of malware infection, how good the tools one has
for doing such removal, the operator's proficiency w/those tools, & a
variety of other factors.
On 12/27/10, Andre Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
> While it might appear all is fine it might not be. You are the best judge
> of
> the integrity of your network. I would be concerned about "routinely"
> having
> to fix these problems. I'll act on the advice of security experts and do
> my
> best to insure any virus whether seemingly harmless to very destructive is
> not an unknown factor in any of the often strange quirks in Windows world.
> After an infection a reformat or image recovery gives me this peace of
> mind.
> Andre
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie McBride" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
>
>
> I routinely fix these sorts of problems by taking the drive out of the
> computer, hooking it up to an external device, & then putting it on
> another computer & running malware scans. I very very seldom have to
> reformat an OS.
>
> Sometimes I do it in Linux, sometimes in Windows. Generally I
> disconnect the machine from the network. It's also a "fix it" drive
> w/nothing important in the event it becomes infected, but I've never
> had that happen, either.
>
> On 12/27/10, Andre Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yep, I'm right there with you 100%!
>> Andre
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Don Marang" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
>>
>>
>> I agree with Andre completely! Reformatting the hard disk and
>> reinstalling
>> the Operating System or recovering from a known good disk image is the
>> only
>> way to be sure the malware is removed. Anything short of that will
>> likely
>> have a small remnant left over that will infect the whole computer again
>> or
>> will damage necessary system files in the process.
>>
>> Most likely, your computer will run faster anyway, since Windows really
>> needs to be reinstalled about once a year just to clean out the clutter
>> and
>> the registry.
>>
>> Don Marang
>>
>> There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any
>> real
>> substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am
>> working
>> on things that matter.
>> Dean Kamen
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Andre Williams" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:34 PM
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
>>
>>> Tell him to reformat and reinstall the operating system. With viruses
>>> now
>>> a
>>> days you can never be sure if they're cleaned off completely In the
>>> hours
>>> and possibly days he's going to spend trying to figure this out and
>>> trying
>>> to clean his computer he can save himself the time and trouble and
>>> reformat
>>> and reload windows in about 2 hours. This happened to me sometime back
>>> and
>>> from the time I realized I had a virus placing 300 items on my system
>>> tray
>>> until the time I reinstalled and image of my hard drive it must have
>>> been
>>> an
>>> hour. Image for Windows to the rescue! He also poses a danger to other
>>> computers on the network at his job.
>>> Andre
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lenny McHugh" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "blind computing" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:23 PM
>>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
>>>
>>>
>>> I am trying to help a friend remove a virus from his work computer. Avg
>>> did
>>> identify it and reported that it could not be removed because it was in
>>> memory. He did not write the name down but it is in win32. The computer
>>> can
>>> only be started in safe mode and if he lets it run it gives a message
>>> that
>>> chkdsk should be run with the f switch. That also will not run when the
>>> machine is restarted. He turn system restore off and ran avg and it did
>>> not
>>> help.
>>> He is using xp professional. He also ran kapersky and it did not help.
>>> Any
>>> quick suggestions?
>>> Thanks
>>> ---
>>> Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational,
>>> inspirational
>>> with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for
>>> the
>>> blind.
>>> http://www.LennyMcHugh.com
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