No one knows about the start of the history from 1995-2005 that well its
only recently that we have started to record community history on
forums, archives, audyssey.org, etc and even then the mag has stopped.
If I remember rightly, we had a few servers with stuff, one softcon
server now lost and maybe something else.
We never kept records of it all, and in fact bar the snippits we got at
the time it was never that clear in the first place.
If it happened in 2007 or 2008 when bavisoft went we may have had
another source with audiogames.net, they actually will do their best
being the main database to find a dev if one is lost if you don't anger
those guys and they do have to put up with a lot usually.
From the outside, james stopped for unknown reason.
No one got anything no mail no games, nothing.
We found out second hand about the attacks, the issues in a small part
though it was never a full story, well maybe we didn't need all of it
but it wasn't a satisfactory answer, even at the end james never
publically appeared to explain himself, if he did we wouldn't have had
any issue at all.
On 31/12/2017 12:04 p.m., Charles Rivard wrote:
Reality check for Justin: Seeing as you know nothing about what went
on between James North and a lot of blind gamers, you should say
nothing. While it is true that, as the saying goes, "If you can't
stand the heat, get out of the kitchen", there was also absolutely no
reason for these people to send him the eMails that they sent not only
to this list, but to James personally. He was not thin skinned. He
took an awful lot of totally unnecessary abuse, a lot of it personal
rather than about his business, from childish and impatient whiners
who did not realize that problems do come up during beta testing, and
that he would not distribute a buggy product. He announced an
expected, not set in concrete, date of release, and then sent updates
if that date was not going to be met. In his updates, he gave the
reason for the pushing back date of the game. I saw some of these
eMails, and would have thrown these adult children into a playpen to
fight among themselves over a pacifier if I could have. They went
beyond nasty by far.
If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
-----Original Message----- From: Justin Jones
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:43 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: James North - Re: [blind-gamers] A Hero's Call question
Okay, reality check: if a developer cannot handle the heat, he
shouldn't be a developer, or, at the very least, have someone else
handle his public relations.
I don't know anything about this James person you guys are on about,
but based on what I have heard, he sounded like a thin-skinned
narsicist that needed to get over himself. What, did he actually think
that the main stream gaming public would treat him better? Hate to
break the news, but main stream gamers are just as, if not more so,
toxic; just as demanding; just as unforgiving. If you want to develop
games, you had better be prepared to handle that reality and not cry
about it when the Internet takes a swing at you.
On 12/30/17, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes I agree also. And now everybody I checked my bank and I am good
to go!
So guess what? I am off to buy a hero’s call and start playing, yay!
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Ian McNamara
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:54
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: James North - Re: [blind-gamers] A Hero's Call question
Hi all,
I completely agree, it’s good to give feedback to developers but not be
nasty or slag them off. If your not satisfied with what your getting
then
why not learn the skills and make a game you want?
Kind regards.
Ian McNamara
On 30 Dec 2017, at 17:42, Jordan Gallacher
<jordanandseptem...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Yep so true. It is also not right to talk about another product on a
list
that is specificly for one product, which is what one person did,
and he
caused a lot of headaches for a lot of people.
Jordan
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-gamers@groups.io [mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io] On
Behalf Of
michael barnes
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 10:47 AM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: James North - Re: [blind-gamers] A Hero's Call question
It is very sad when people are nasty with developers of games for the
blind.
We have lost so many developers do to this reason.
It is cool to give ideas or suggestions, but not to be nasty with them.
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