I meant arrow keys to read the screen, since you always read up and down
line by line.
All the best,
Dark.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jude DaShiell" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] unnethack
Don't use arrow keys. What's wrong with h,j,k,l?
On Tue, 6 Mar 2018, dark wrote:
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 16:10:17
From: dark <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] unnethack
Again though when you hit down arrow from your current position your told
the entire line not just what is one tyle south of you.
There is no way with a windows screen reader to go down one character
thus you can never be sure what is south or north of you exactly, quite
aside from the fact that going through a screen of over 120 lines each
of which is 300 characters one character at a time is really! time
consuming.
I did wonder in Angband if you could use the look curser to jump around
the screen, since a command was implemented to tell you the distance from
your characters' current position and the nearest enemy/item, the problem
though is without an idea of the layout of the area your always basically
stuck with single targets, and there is no way to know which is a
tunnel, which a room, what rooms connect where etc.
I suspect roguelikes won't be completely accessible until someone
develops that full screen braille display.
All the best,
Dark.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] unnethack
Don't listen to the screen reader while it reads lines. Wait until it
stops then use the keys you normally use to check out the characters on
the screen. The first thing to do when the screen reader stops reading
is
to locate any @ signs. One of these is going to be you. Others are
either vault guards; shopkeepers, or shape-shifters. Then do a /
command
and Identify each one of them as well as any monsters near you. If you
know your screen location the monsters screen location is given in the
same way so you can find direction and distance from you that way.
These games involve at least as much strategy as killing monsters so if
I
get lucky with equipment finds or increases in experience levels or
finding a down staircase, often I'll save the game and come back to it
and
start playing it later.
On Tue, 6 Mar 2018, dark wrote:
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 12:56:59
From: dark <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] unnethack
I know about the nethaccess file, but whenever I've ried the map has
been
impossible to make sense of since screen readers read text in lines
and
getting a line that says dot dot dot hash dot dot dot dot bar dot dot
doesn't tell me much, indeed the only roguelike I've ever had success
playing was Angband and that due more to a combination of usable large
graphic tyles and my remaining vision than anything in the game
itself.
This is why we don't list roguelikes on audiogames.net since until
someone comes out with that full screen braille display they're always
going to be a pain in the arse to play.
All the best,
Dark.
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