No, i was talking about the Robert Caesar who developed IYP, and would not support the product. Jordan > On May 30, 2018, at 10:24 PM, Jack Falejjczyk <[email protected]> wrote: > > Justin, look. You're talking about a game 5 years in the making, also > a game that's now lost one of their primary developers. How can you > still keep this elitist, entitled mindset? Did they not release some > of the backer items in time? Yes, this is true. But will they/ > Eventually. They promised to when they can. Was there ever a release > date set for those extra items? Can't say I remember for sure, but I > doubt it. That makes them not bound to a release date for them, and at > this point I don't want to hear about any of that, because, I quote: > Out of Sight Games: @alexwallis646 @robwilliams95 @mitmee_pie The > items in question are definitely well past-due. That’s actually the > thing that we’re trying to get working before releasing v1.3. 5:44:56 > PM from Twitter for iPhone > See, there's your proof. Happy now? > Oh and as far as any of the items were concerned, Joseph did > officially state that if people weren't having it and didn't want to > wait around for those items, they would be happy to arrange a refund > on the respective level. So while you're at it, if you're so bent on > making sure this dev's reputation is grass just because you and > friends aren't satisfied, why don't you kindly take your frustrations > off the air and go get your refund if that's what you want, thank you. > >> On 5/30/18, Jordan Gallacher <[email protected]> wrote: >> It is people like Justin who clearly do not know the first thing about >> business especially in the software development realm that are the problem. >> I deal with software developers all the time and have never had a problem >> except for one, who fortunately is no longer around thankfully. Justin, you >> obviously do not keep up with this company, so knock off damaging their >> reputation. I have become friends with the developer, and they went out of >> the way to get the game working on my computer when they really did not have >> to do that. They could have just given me my money back. So, your >> credibility is down by quite a bit. >>> On May 30, 2018, at 9:10 PM, Justin Jones <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> A whole lot of white-knighting is going on here... >>> >>> A lesson on business ethics: when a company, Out of Sight Games in >>> this instance, takes money, they are legally bound to honor the >>> promises they made. There is no excuse, period, full stop. If they >>> were having difficulties with honoring their promises, then the onus >>> is on them to communicate this with their customers. Regarding the >>> promises made for supporting the Kickstarter for the game, they have >>> not done this. >>> >>> Furthermore, and of greater concern, behavior like this does not bode >>> well for future developers. If someone has a pretty good game ready to >>> develop and asks for Kickstarter support, the logical inference might >>> be that the same behavior patterns will be repeated, i.e. promises >>> made, money taken, promises not kept, annoyed community, so on and so >>> on. This then has the potential to put off future developers from >>> attempting to create games because people have become mistrustful of >>> promises made by said developers. It's a, potentially, vicious cycle. >>> These are the reasons why, among others, that I refuse to cut these >>> guys any slack. It's not about the additional in-game items promised >>> as I did not need any of it to complete the game, rather the damage >>> behaviors such as these do to the audio game developer community as a >>> whole. >>> >>>> On 5/30/18, Shaun Everiss <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Yeah, with ian in the company its going to be that much harder. >>>> >>>> And according to twitter they are still working on it in fact a version >>>> was supposed to be out today but something broke so it isn't. >>>> >>>> This is probably as close to mainstream as you get, I do know for a fact >>>> mainstream companies don't always respond and they don't release updates >>>> or news on time anyway. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 5/31/2018 12:39 PM, Jordan Gallacher wrote: >>>>> AHC is one of the best games out there in my opinion, and the developer >>>>> deserves a lot of credit for making a great game. >>>>> Jordan >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>>>> Justin >>>>> Jones >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 5:26 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] have had a response from out of sight games >>>>> about a heros call >>>>> >>>>> Glad he got back to you, but so far as I am concerned, the damage is >>>>> done. >>>>> >>>>> On 5/30/18, Alex Wallis via Groups.Io >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Hi list, >>>>>> >>>>>> just thought I would send an update to say I have now heard back from >>>>>> joseph about a heros call and my jaws issue, he said he didn't see my >>>>>> emails as they were marked as read for some reason. >>>>>> >>>>>> anyway he has tried to be helpful and pointed me towards an unofficial >>>>>> jaws jkm file to get a heros call to work with it, in case anyone >>>>>> wants to get the file themselves it can be downloaded from the a heros >>>>>> call topic on the audiogames.net website post 1076, i think that post >>>>>> is on page 42 its somewhere in the 40s anyway. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> so he has gone out of his way to be helpful. a question though, I have >>>>>> installed the unofficial jaws jkm file, and it works great, but there >>>>>> is one issue where it says the name of the arrow keys each time I >>>>>> press them, I assume the author of the file isn't on this list? if not >>>>>> does anyone happen to know how I might be able to prevent the key >>>>>> names being announced in the game when I press them? >>>>>> >>>>>> apart from that it works great. >>>>>> >>>>>> I just thought I would update everyone so that I don't unfairly >>>>>> blacken a developer. >>>>>> >>>>>> I did refer joseph to my topics on the list so he can see people's >>>>>> comments about not receiving game items etc, though not sure if he >>>>>> will read the topics. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alex. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Justin M. Jones, M.A. >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> (254) 624-9155 >>>>> 701 Ewing St. #509-C, Ft. Wayne IN, 46802 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Justin M. Jones, M.A. >>> [email protected] >>> (254) 624-9155 >>> 701 Ewing St. #509-C, Ft. Wayne IN, 46802 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > >
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