I heard about that. And that cost a pretty substantial amount mind you. On 5/30/18, Jordan Gallacher <[email protected]> wrote: > No, i was talking about the Robert Caesar who developed IYP, and would not > support the product. > Jordan >> On May 30, 2018, at 10:24 PM, Jack Falejjczyk <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Justin, look. You're talking about a game 5 years in the making, also >> a game that's now lost one of their primary developers. How can you >> still keep this elitist, entitled mindset? Did they not release some >> of the backer items in time? Yes, this is true. But will they/ >> Eventually. They promised to when they can. Was there ever a release >> date set for those extra items? Can't say I remember for sure, but I >> doubt it. That makes them not bound to a release date for them, and at >> this point I don't want to hear about any of that, because, I quote: >> Out of Sight Games: @alexwallis646 @robwilliams95 @mitmee_pie The >> items in question are definitely well past-due. That’s actually the >> thing that we’re trying to get working before releasing v1.3. 5:44:56 >> PM from Twitter for iPhone >> See, there's your proof. Happy now? >> Oh and as far as any of the items were concerned, Joseph did >> officially state that if people weren't having it and didn't want to >> wait around for those items, they would be happy to arrange a refund >> on the respective level. So while you're at it, if you're so bent on >> making sure this dev's reputation is grass just because you and >> friends aren't satisfied, why don't you kindly take your frustrations >> off the air and go get your refund if that's what you want, thank you. >> >>> On 5/30/18, Jordan Gallacher <[email protected]> wrote: >>> It is people like Justin who clearly do not know the first thing about >>> business especially in the software development realm that are the >>> problem. >>> I deal with software developers all the time and have never had a >>> problem >>> except for one, who fortunately is no longer around thankfully. Justin, >>> you >>> obviously do not keep up with this company, so knock off damaging their >>> reputation. I have become friends with the developer, and they went out >>> of >>> the way to get the game working on my computer when they really did not >>> have >>> to do that. They could have just given me my money back. So, your >>> credibility is down by quite a bit. >>>> On May 30, 2018, at 9:10 PM, Justin Jones <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> A whole lot of white-knighting is going on here... >>>> >>>> A lesson on business ethics: when a company, Out of Sight Games in >>>> this instance, takes money, they are legally bound to honor the >>>> promises they made. There is no excuse, period, full stop. If they >>>> were having difficulties with honoring their promises, then the onus >>>> is on them to communicate this with their customers. Regarding the >>>> promises made for supporting the Kickstarter for the game, they have >>>> not done this. >>>> >>>> Furthermore, and of greater concern, behavior like this does not bode >>>> well for future developers. If someone has a pretty good game ready to >>>> develop and asks for Kickstarter support, the logical inference might >>>> be that the same behavior patterns will be repeated, i.e. promises >>>> made, money taken, promises not kept, annoyed community, so on and so >>>> on. This then has the potential to put off future developers from >>>> attempting to create games because people have become mistrustful of >>>> promises made by said developers. It's a, potentially, vicious cycle. >>>> These are the reasons why, among others, that I refuse to cut these >>>> guys any slack. It's not about the additional in-game items promised >>>> as I did not need any of it to complete the game, rather the damage >>>> behaviors such as these do to the audio game developer community as a >>>> whole. >>>> >>>>> On 5/30/18, Shaun Everiss <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Yeah, with ian in the company its going to be that much harder. >>>>> >>>>> And according to twitter they are still working on it in fact a >>>>> version >>>>> was supposed to be out today but something broke so it isn't. >>>>> >>>>> This is probably as close to mainstream as you get, I do know for a >>>>> fact >>>>> mainstream companies don't always respond and they don't release >>>>> updates >>>>> or news on time anyway. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/31/2018 12:39 PM, Jordan Gallacher wrote: >>>>>> AHC is one of the best games out there in my opinion, and the >>>>>> developer >>>>>> deserves a lot of credit for making a great game. >>>>>> Jordan >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>>>>> Justin >>>>>> Jones >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 5:26 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] have had a response from out of sight >>>>>> games >>>>>> about a heros call >>>>>> >>>>>> Glad he got back to you, but so far as I am concerned, the damage is >>>>>> done. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/30/18, Alex Wallis via Groups.Io >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi list, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> just thought I would send an update to say I have now heard back >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> joseph about a heros call and my jaws issue, he said he didn't see >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> emails as they were marked as read for some reason. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> anyway he has tried to be helpful and pointed me towards an >>>>>>> unofficial >>>>>>> jaws jkm file to get a heros call to work with it, in case anyone >>>>>>> wants to get the file themselves it can be downloaded from the a >>>>>>> heros >>>>>>> call topic on the audiogames.net website post 1076, i think that >>>>>>> post >>>>>>> is on page 42 its somewhere in the 40s anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> so he has gone out of his way to be helpful. a question though, I >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> installed the unofficial jaws jkm file, and it works great, but >>>>>>> there >>>>>>> is one issue where it says the name of the arrow keys each time I >>>>>>> press them, I assume the author of the file isn't on this list? if >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> does anyone happen to know how I might be able to prevent the key >>>>>>> names being announced in the game when I press them? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> apart from that it works great. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just thought I would update everyone so that I don't unfairly >>>>>>> blacken a developer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I did refer joseph to my topics on the list so he can see people's >>>>>>> comments about not receiving game items etc, though not sure if he >>>>>>> will read the topics. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alex. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Justin M. Jones, M.A. >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> (254) 624-9155 >>>>>> 701 Ewing St. #509-C, Ft. Wayne IN, 46802 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Justin M. Jones, M.A. >>>> [email protected] >>>> (254) 624-9155 >>>> 701 Ewing St. #509-C, Ft. Wayne IN, 46802 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > >
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