Hey Joshua, Glad you were able to get some help to get to what you wanted. Sorry it was such a pain. The game does have its issues and I’m not justifying them, but it is definitely doable and is really fun if you really like driving. Again, I’m not playing with someone sighted because I need to for the game, I’m just playing with them because it’s fun! :) -You understand. -But yes, the game could definitely be a whole lot friendlier to those of us who need it. :)
The game absolutely will let you go to events in any order you choose. I know because I did a showcase event race before I did either of the accolades I mentioned. The game absolutely does not force you to do the story. If you want to find the showcase I did first, it is called On a Wing and a Prayer, and if you are with someone sighted, there will be an airplane on the map where it is. Regarding the map, I actually use the map almost all of the time and usually do not use Anna directly. This is without sighted help. You’re right in that it is not just moving left or right, or moving around randomly. What I was suggesting was that you move up or down the map in left / right rows with the D pad. Depending on how much you are showing on the map, this is not super difficult or time consuming as there can be a lot of things actually showing. So I do not usually need to go very far unless I really filter the map down to one specific category with very few points on it. Otherwise, I can usually find an event or race to go to pretty quickly. If you just hold down the left or right D pad your cursor will move all the way across the map in that direction. If you then click up or down once or twice, and then go back the opposite way (left or right) you will make another row across the map. The cursor moves pretty fast so this does not take much time at all. -And, you will hear a click when you get to an important location. So if you just stop there and drop a pin, you should be fine, and Anna will automatically be set to that location when you exit the map. Yes, you can choose any location on the map and Anna will take you there, even if it is out in the middle of nowhere. I like to do this a lot because I find cool things. :) It is also possible to find events along the way that you can participate in. While Anna won’t announce them, the screen reader should announce these as you pass them and tell you to press X to enter the event. If you press X quickly or are able to stop quickly and then press it, you should be able to enter that event before you pass it. If you miss it, you can also back up and the screen reader should announce it for you. As I said this game is far from perfect, but it is definitely fun if you can come to terms with it’s quirks. The Welcome to Mexico group of accolades is exactly what you should be seeing at this point and you should be able to enter those accolades from there. I was able to do this myself. I’ll check back in tomorrow and detail this further if you need me to. Very glad you were able to make progress today! :) Have a great evening! Cheers! Cara > On Jun 2, 2022, at 5:09 PM, Joshua Tubbs <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Cara, > Yes, I got some sighted help to help me get to that event where you find the > truck. Then you drive it and park it somewhere. > Now that accolades are unlocked for me via the accolades menu, and Anna isn't > unlocked yet, how can I make progress going forward? You have to select a > route for Anna to guide you there, and selecting routes on the map is a pain. > Even with the dPad it's not just a simple move left or right etc, it's move > around until you hear clicks and hope that you find something. Because on the > map you might be on an empty space and you can just press A and it will set a > pin there even though no notable events are actually there. > What I mean is, before Anna unlocks, you have to use the map. When she's > unlocked you can use the dPad down to just automatically plot a route to the > nearest accolade, among other things. > I have to look at your message on the accolades menu because the only one > that's unlocked, category wise for me, is Welcome to Mexico. This is what I > mean about story events in the first to second part of the game, the game > actually is linear there, at some points forcing you to select a specific > thing on the map before you can back out of it. A key example is when you > have to select which events you want to open first. Whether it be drag > racing, cross country, stunts etc. I imagine you got through all these > barriors with your friend so you might not remember what I'm talking > about/your experience was different because of sighted help. > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 5:14 PM Cara Quinn <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Hi Zachary, > > Glad I could inspire you to try it! :) > > As I’d mentioned to Joshua, it’s definitely not perfect but I’m finding it to > be super fun and a bit more accessible than folks seem to be saying online. > > My original post was meant for those who were already familiar with the game > but if you’re not, I want to mention right away, about how to actually get > the accessibility features active because the game is absolutely horrible in > that regard, and I want to save you and others the frustration I had. > > When you start the game, you need to press the X button on the controller to > get into the Accessibility menu. What I do, is press D pad up three times. > (You should hear little clicks as you move through menu options) This should > get you to the screen reader option. Once there, press D pad right once and > then press the menu button. This should cause the screen reader to then be > activated. > > If this does not work, then you may need to get sighted help as it may have > placed you in the Settings menu rather than straight into Accessibility. If > this is the case, you will most likely be focused on the Difficulty menu, > which is one option above Accessibility. So in this case, you would need to > go down one option and then press A to enter the Accessibility menu. From > there you can just follow the above instructions and you should be good to go. > > I hope this makes some sort of sense. They really dropped the ball in this > regard so I wish you the very best of luck and here’s hoping you get the > screen narration active easily! :) > > Once you have speech going, you will want to locate the Difficulty menu and > go in there. > > What I did when starting out was simply to change two things: > > I changed the Drivetar difficulty to Tourist and also set the profile to All > assists. This will set your driving assist to Auto Drive. > > This way you will be able to automatically follow routes that Anna guides you > on. > > I hope this helps and as I’d mentioned earlier in the thread, I’ll definitely > post when / if I learn anything new that may be of more help. > > Happy Driving! :) > > Cheers! > > Cara > > > >> On Jun 2, 2022, at 8:39 AM, Zachary Kline <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> I just wanted to thank you for this detail description. I was not previously >> all that interested in trying this game, but I am curious now, and I saw >> that it is available >> Hey, >> >> I just wanted to thank you for this detail description. I was not previously >> all that interested in trying this game, but I am curious now, and I saw >> that it is available on GamePass so figured it is worth a shot. I will see >> how I make out :) >> >> best, >> Zack. >> >>> On Jun 1, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Cara Quinn <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Joshua, I’ll look at this in the morning, but I believe that you can >>> still click on those points on the map. What happens if you locate those >>> positions that you can click on and set a route to one of them? Are you >>> able to travel there? >>> >>> I think I remember having the same issue but for me, it let me click on >>> another place on the map and do a race. So I first did a race and then I >>> did one of the events. >>> >>> So for me I didn’t do the story right away, I first did at least one race >>> and then I went back and did a part of the story. I don’t remember the >>> exact order but I remember that I was able to do races before I did the >>> story. >>> >>> >>> Sorry for the frustration, as I said I’ll try to figure this out in the >>> morning and see if I can offer any more help. >>> >>> Have a great night! >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers! >>> >>> Cara >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2022, at 9:00 PM, Joshua Tubbs <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Kara, >>>> So I'm at the part where your manager woman says "I got a couple request >>>> in and they're looking for a talented driver." I believe this is where you >>>> can either select the Jag barn find or the storm but I don't know if these >>>> are accolades or what? Unfortunately the actual accolades menu is locked >>>> at this stage, so it's strictly using the map here. Anna is also locked at >>>> this point. I know when I click on one of these the game will say, "Okay, >>>> I'll let them know you want that one." So I'm not sure if by default when >>>> I bring up the map if it's already filtered for ease of use as I think its >>>> basically finishing up the tutorial, or if I filter it down to stories I >>>> hold the left and right on dPad and I get one or two clickable things to >>>> click, and none appear to be what the game wants to progress. >>>> Any help would be appreciated. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 9:06 PM Joshua Tubbs via groups.io >>>> <http://groups.io/><[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> It actually does, thanks. I'll try this later. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 7:48 PM Cara Quinn <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> Ah, one more thing, when you’re in the filter screen and you’ve chosen a >>>> filter, don’t forget to press the B button to exit back to the map so you >>>> can search for what you want. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps and happy driving! >>>> >>>> Cheers! >>>> >>>> Cara >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 1, 2022, at 3:22 PM, Joshua Tubbs <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm trying to choose the first story event on the map, the one where your >>>>> manager says they want a driver to take pictures of a storm or the other >>>>> one, I forgot. >>>>> While there is an audible click when you drop a pin on a location, who >>>>> knows whether it's an event or what. I wish the filter menu was narrated >>>>> since when scrolling through the items with OCR I can't really tell which >>>>> option my cursor is on. >>>>> The story option filter is way down the list of filter options. So I >>>>> clear the map, hit down once and check new stuff, which since I'm early >>>>> should only show stuff needed to progress. >>>>> Any tips on this? Perhaps one of the items I need to progress doesn't >>>>> actually click when I move to it, just when I hit A to drop a pin on it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:50 PM Cara Quinn <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> I’d forgotten to mention that you can also easily clear a route from the >>>>> map by simply opening the map and then pressing the A button once. This >>>>> should clear whatever route you have set. So in this way, you will have >>>>> no guidance at all from Anna and you're free to explore. >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers! >>>>> >>>>> Cara >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > On Jun 1, 2022, at 2:26 PM, Cara Quinn <[email protected] >>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi All, >>>>> > >>>>> > I just found out from a close friend a few days ago that Forza Horizon >>>>> > 5 is essentially accessible; and since I love love LOVE driving games, >>>>> > I am super excited! :) >>>>> > >>>>> > Apologies in advance if any of this is old news to folks here. I have >>>>> > seen a lot of people online wondering about these same things so I >>>>> > thought I would share these tips that I’ve found here. >>>>> > >>>>> > In the early parts of the game, I noticed that the map seemed to be a >>>>> > barrier to moving forward for many people, myself included. >>>>> > >>>>> > I’ve figured out since then though, that the map is actually somewhat >>>>> > usable so I wanted to share it here, as I’ve seen others wondering how >>>>> > to move forward in the earlier part of the game without sight as well. >>>>> > >>>>> > So the first thing I’ve discovered (as some may already know) is that >>>>> > when you pass your cursor over a designated game location on the map, >>>>> > there is a small audible click. So if you stop your cursor there, and >>>>> > press the A button, you will place a pin on the map and map a route to >>>>> > that location. >>>>> > >>>>> > From there, if you simply exit the map, Anna should then begin >>>>> > navigating you to that map point. >>>>> > >>>>> > I use the D pad to move my cursor on the map. Personally, depending on >>>>> > how much is currently visible on the map, I use a back and forth >>>>> > movement (row by row) across the map to see what is there. >>>>> > >>>>> > The next thing that I’ve discovered, is that you can actually place a >>>>> > pin on any location on the map (whether it makes a click or not) and >>>>> > Anna will navigate you there. So this can be helpful to find new places >>>>> > and also to find game events possibly along the way, which you can >>>>> > enter if you choose. >>>>> > >>>>> > There is also the map filter, which again, some may already know about. >>>>> > This is also accessible. When you bring up the filter, you are >>>>> > positioned on the All category. If you press A once to toggle this off, >>>>> > you will clear the map. >>>>> > >>>>> > Next, if you use the D pad and move down the list of filter categories, >>>>> > you can locate the category you’d like to show and then press A to only >>>>> > show those locales on the map. >>>>> > >>>>> > So now if you go back to the map and use your cursor again, you can >>>>> > hear the same small clicks when you locate important game locations. >>>>> > -And, as before, you can press A to set a route and then exit the map >>>>> > to begin navigation there. >>>>> > >>>>> > If you need to reset the map to show everything again, you can use the >>>>> > X button while in the filter screen. >>>>> > >>>>> > At this point, the exception to this is Barn Finds. These do not seem >>>>> > to make a sound when you pass over them. I’m still really early in the >>>>> > game so it may be that these are not actually available to me yet. I >>>>> > don’t know. I was able to get to one of them (the one with the Jag) but >>>>> > I have not figured out how. I’ll post again if I learn more about this. >>>>> > >>>>> > So now on to Accolades. >>>>> > >>>>> > I’ve also figured out that the Accolades menu is actually usable even >>>>> > though it says that it is not narrated. >>>>> > >>>>> > If you enter the Accolades menu and it says that the menu is not >>>>> > narrated, using the D pad, you can still hear a small click when you >>>>> > reach each group of accolades. Even though these are not announced >>>>> > verbally, when you click on them with the A button, they will be >>>>> > announced as you enter them. So for example, the group you land on by >>>>> > default is called "Welcome to Mexico," which contains the initial group >>>>> > of accolades. If you back out of that group and then move one click to >>>>> > the right and click that group, you will hear “Expeditions.” This is >>>>> > the group of accolades related to expeditions. >>>>> > >>>>> > So in this way, you can actually move through the game accolades >>>>> > without sight. >>>>> > >>>>> > I hope this is helpful to someone and I’ll post more tips when I find >>>>> > them. >>>>> > >>>>> > Happy Driving All! :) >>>>> > >>>>> > Cheers! >>>>> > >>>>> > Cara >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#125016): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/125016 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/91485895/21656 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/21656/1071380848/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
