Got me really wanting to get an Xbox even more now. On 6/2/22, Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com> wrote: > Hey Joshua, > > Glad you were able to get some help to get to what you wanted. Sorry it was > such a pain. The game does have its issues and I’m not justifying them, but > it is definitely doable and is really fun if you really like driving. Again, > I’m not playing with someone sighted because I need to for the game, I’m > just playing with them because it’s fun! :) -You understand. -But yes, the > game could definitely be a whole lot friendlier to those of us who need it. > :) > > The game absolutely will let you go to events in any order you choose. I > know because I did a showcase event race before I did either of the > accolades I mentioned. The game absolutely does not force you to do the > story. If you want to find the showcase I did first, it is called On a Wing > and a Prayer, and if you are with someone sighted, there will be an airplane > on the map where it is. > > Regarding the map, I actually use the map almost all of the time and usually > do not use Anna directly. This is without sighted help. > > You’re right in that it is not just moving left or right, or moving around > randomly. What I was suggesting was that you move up or down the map in left > / right rows with the D pad. Depending on how much you are showing on the > map, this is not super difficult or time consuming as there can be a lot of > things actually showing. > > So I do not usually need to go very far unless I really filter the map down > to one specific category with very few points on it. Otherwise, I can > usually find an event or race to go to pretty quickly. > > If you just hold down the left or right D pad your cursor will move all the > way across the map in that direction. If you then click up or down once or > twice, and then go back the opposite way (left or right) you will make > another row across the map. The cursor moves pretty fast so this does not > take much time at all. -And, you will hear a click when you get to an > important location. So if you just stop there and drop a pin, you should be > fine, and Anna will automatically be set to that location when you exit the > map. > > Yes, you can choose any location on the map and Anna will take you there, > even if it is out in the middle of nowhere. I like to do this a lot because > I find cool things. :) It is also possible to find events along the way that > you can participate in. While Anna won’t announce them, the screen reader > should announce these as you pass them and tell you to press X to enter the > event. If you press X quickly or are able to stop quickly and then press it, > you should be able to enter that event before you pass it. If you miss it, > you can also back up and the screen reader should announce it for you. As I > said this game is far from perfect, but it is definitely fun if you can come > to terms with it’s quirks. > > The Welcome to Mexico group of accolades is exactly what you should be > seeing at this point and you should be able to enter those accolades from > there. I was able to do this myself. I’ll check back in tomorrow and detail > this further if you need me to. Very glad you were able to make progress > today! :) Have a great evening! > > Cheers! > > Cara > > > >> On Jun 2, 2022, at 5:09 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello Cara, >> Yes, I got some sighted help to help me get to that event where you find >> the truck. Then you drive it and park it somewhere. >> Now that accolades are unlocked for me via the accolades menu, and Anna >> isn't unlocked yet, how can I make progress going forward? You have to >> select a route for Anna to guide you there, and selecting routes on the >> map is a pain. Even with the dPad it's not just a simple move left or >> right etc, it's move around until you hear clicks and hope that you find >> something. Because on the map you might be on an empty space and you can >> just press A and it will set a pin there even though no notable events are >> actually there. >> What I mean is, before Anna unlocks, you have to use the map. When she's >> unlocked you can use the dPad down to just automatically plot a route to >> the nearest accolade, among other things. >> I have to look at your message on the accolades menu because the only one >> that's unlocked, category wise for me, is Welcome to Mexico. This is what >> I mean about story events in the first to second part of the game, the >> game actually is linear there, at some points forcing you to select a >> specific thing on the map before you can back out of it. A key example is >> when you have to select which events you want to open first. Whether it be >> drag racing, cross country, stunts etc. I imagine you got through all >> these barriors with your friend so you might not remember what I'm talking >> about/your experience was different because of sighted help. >> >> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 5:14 PM Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> wrote: >> Hi Zachary, >> >> Glad I could inspire you to try it! :) >> >> As I’d mentioned to Joshua, it’s definitely not perfect but I’m finding it >> to be super fun and a bit more accessible than folks seem to be saying >> online. >> >> My original post was meant for those who were already familiar with the >> game but if you’re not, I want to mention right away, about how to >> actually get the accessibility features active because the game is >> absolutely horrible in that regard, and I want to save you and others the >> frustration I had. >> >> When you start the game, you need to press the X button on the controller >> to get into the Accessibility menu. What I do, is press D pad up three >> times. (You should hear little clicks as you move through menu options) >> This should get you to the screen reader option. Once there, press D pad >> right once and then press the menu button. This should cause the screen >> reader to then be activated. >> >> If this does not work, then you may need to get sighted help as it may >> have placed you in the Settings menu rather than straight into >> Accessibility. If this is the case, you will most likely be focused on the >> Difficulty menu, which is one option above Accessibility. So in this case, >> you would need to go down one option and then press A to enter the >> Accessibility menu. From there you can just follow the above instructions >> and you should be good to go. >> >> I hope this makes some sort of sense. They really dropped the ball in this >> regard so I wish you the very best of luck and here’s hoping you get the >> screen narration active easily! :) >> >> Once you have speech going, you will want to locate the Difficulty menu >> and go in there. >> >> What I did when starting out was simply to change two things: >> >> I changed the Drivetar difficulty to Tourist and also set the profile to >> All assists. This will set your driving assist to Auto Drive. >> >> This way you will be able to automatically follow routes that Anna guides >> you on. >> >> I hope this helps and as I’d mentioned earlier in the thread, I’ll >> definitely post when / if I learn anything new that may be of more help. >> >> Happy Driving! :) >> >> Cheers! >> >> Cara >> >> >> >>> On Jun 2, 2022, at 8:39 AM, Zachary Kline <zkl...@speedpost.net >>> <mailto:zkl...@speedpost.net>> wrote: >>> >>> Hey, >>> >>> I just wanted to thank you for this detail description. I was not >>> previously all that interested in trying this game, but I am curious now, >>> and I saw that it is available >>> Hey, >>> >>> I just wanted to thank you for this detail description. I was not >>> previously all that interested in trying this game, but I am curious now, >>> and I saw that it is available on GamePass so figured it is worth a shot. >>> I will see how I make out :) >>> >>> best, >>> Zack. >>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Joshua, I’ll look at this in the morning, but I believe that you can >>>> still click on those points on the map. What happens if you locate those >>>> positions that you can click on and set a route to one of them? Are you >>>> able to travel there? >>>> >>>> I think I remember having the same issue but for me, it let me click on >>>> another place on the map and do a race. So I first did a race and then I >>>> did one of the events. >>>> >>>> So for me I didn’t do the story right away, I first did at least one >>>> race and then I went back and did a part of the story. I don’t remember >>>> the exact order but I remember that I was able to do races before I did >>>> the story. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sorry for the frustration, as I said I’ll try to figure this out in the >>>> morning and see if I can offer any more help. >>>> >>>> Have a great night! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers! >>>> >>>> Cara >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 1, 2022, at 9:00 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:orin8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Kara, >>>>> So I'm at the part where your manager woman says "I got a couple >>>>> request in and they're looking for a talented driver." I believe this >>>>> is where you can either select the Jag barn find or the storm but I >>>>> don't know if these are accolades or what? Unfortunately the actual >>>>> accolades menu is locked at this stage, so it's strictly using the map >>>>> here. Anna is also locked at this point. I know when I click on one of >>>>> these the game will say, "Okay, I'll let them know you want that one." >>>>> So I'm not sure if by default when I bring up the map if it's already >>>>> filtered for ease of use as I think its basically finishing up the >>>>> tutorial, or if I filter it down to stories I hold the left and right >>>>> on dPad and I get one or two clickable things to click, and none appear >>>>> to be what the game wants to progress. >>>>> Any help would be appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 9:06 PM Joshua Tubbs via groups.io >>>>> <http://groups.io/><orin8722=gmail....@groups.io >>>>> <mailto:gmail....@groups.io>> wrote: >>>>> It actually does, thanks. I'll try this later. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 7:48 PM Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> wrote: >>>>> Ah, one more thing, when you’re in the filter screen and you’ve chosen >>>>> a filter, don’t forget to press the B button to exit back to the map so >>>>> you can search for what you want. >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps and happy driving! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers! >>>>> >>>>> Cara >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 1, 2022, at 3:22 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:orin8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm trying to choose the first story event on the map, the one where >>>>>> your manager says they want a driver to take pictures of a storm or >>>>>> the other one, I forgot. >>>>>> While there is an audible click when you drop a pin on a location, who >>>>>> knows whether it's an event or what. I wish the filter menu was >>>>>> narrated since when scrolling through the items with OCR I can't >>>>>> really tell which option my cursor is on. >>>>>> The story option filter is way down the list of filter options. So I >>>>>> clear the map, hit down once and check new stuff, which since I'm >>>>>> early should only show stuff needed to progress. >>>>>> Any tips on this? Perhaps one of the items I need to progress doesn't >>>>>> actually click when I move to it, just when I hit A to drop a pin on >>>>>> it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:50 PM Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> wrote: >>>>>> I’d forgotten to mention that you can also easily clear a route from >>>>>> the map by simply opening the map and then pressing the A button once. >>>>>> This should clear whatever route you have set. So in this way, you >>>>>> will have no guidance at all from Anna and you're free to explore. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps! >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>> >>>>>> Cara >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > On Jun 1, 2022, at 2:26 PM, Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>>> > <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Hi All, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I just found out from a close friend a few days ago that Forza >>>>>> > Horizon 5 is essentially accessible; and since I love love LOVE >>>>>> > driving games, I am super excited! :) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Apologies in advance if any of this is old news to folks here. I >>>>>> > have seen a lot of people online wondering about these same things >>>>>> > so I thought I would share these tips that I’ve found here. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > In the early parts of the game, I noticed that the map seemed to be >>>>>> > a barrier to moving forward for many people, myself included. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I’ve figured out since then though, that the map is actually >>>>>> > somewhat usable so I wanted to share it here, as I’ve seen others >>>>>> > wondering how to move forward in the earlier part of the game >>>>>> > without sight as well. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > So the first thing I’ve discovered (as some may already know) is >>>>>> > that when you pass your cursor over a designated game location on >>>>>> > the map, there is a small audible click. So if you stop your cursor >>>>>> > there, and press the A button, you will place a pin on the map and >>>>>> > map a route to that location. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > From there, if you simply exit the map, Anna should then begin >>>>>> > navigating you to that map point. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I use the D pad to move my cursor on the map. Personally, depending >>>>>> > on how much is currently visible on the map, I use a back and forth >>>>>> > movement (row by row) across the map to see what is there. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > The next thing that I’ve discovered, is that you can actually place >>>>>> > a pin on any location on the map (whether it makes a click or not) >>>>>> > and Anna will navigate you there. So this can be helpful to find new >>>>>> > places and also to find game events possibly along the way, which >>>>>> > you can enter if you choose. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > There is also the map filter, which again, some may already know >>>>>> > about. This is also accessible. When you bring up the filter, you >>>>>> > are positioned on the All category. If you press A once to toggle >>>>>> > this off, you will clear the map. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Next, if you use the D pad and move down the list of filter >>>>>> > categories, you can locate the category you’d like to show and then >>>>>> > press A to only show those locales on the map. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > So now if you go back to the map and use your cursor again, you can >>>>>> > hear the same small clicks when you locate important game locations. >>>>>> > -And, as before, you can press A to set a route and then exit the >>>>>> > map to begin navigation there. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > If you need to reset the map to show everything again, you can use >>>>>> > the X button while in the filter screen. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > At this point, the exception to this is Barn Finds. These do not >>>>>> > seem to make a sound when you pass over them. I’m still really early >>>>>> > in the game so it may be that these are not actually available to me >>>>>> > yet. I don’t know. I was able to get to one of them (the one with >>>>>> > the Jag) but I have not figured out how. I’ll post again if I learn >>>>>> > more about this. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > So now on to Accolades. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I’ve also figured out that the Accolades menu is actually usable >>>>>> > even though it says that it is not narrated. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > If you enter the Accolades menu and it says that the menu is not >>>>>> > narrated, using the D pad, you can still hear a small click when you >>>>>> > reach each group of accolades. Even though these are not announced >>>>>> > verbally, when you click on them with the A button, they will be >>>>>> > announced as you enter them. So for example, the group you land on >>>>>> > by default is called "Welcome to Mexico," which contains the initial >>>>>> > group of accolades. If you back out of that group and then move one >>>>>> > click to the right and click that group, you will hear >>>>>> > “Expeditions.” This is the group of accolades related to >>>>>> > expeditions. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > So in this way, you can actually move through the game accolades >>>>>> > without sight. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I hope this is helpful to someone and I’ll post more tips when I >>>>>> > find them. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Happy Driving All! :) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Cheers! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Cara >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >
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