Slint is the international version of slackware and it updated this year to version 15.0. Slint for screen reader users whether you use console or gui is especially useful since the first question your sound card asks you is if you want speech for the installation when slint boots. Slackware didn't do that and so far as I know doesn't do that now. https://slint.fr/ for anyone interested. btw, tintin works on it fine.
-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Mon, 3 Apr 2023, Travis Siegel wrote: > Yeah, fair, but there's too many people that say they have no experience with > linux, then come up with some silly reason why this is so. Linux is free, it > runs on just about any pc or device you can think of, and it's been around > longer than windows 95. Anyone who actually wants to have experience with > linux can do so for free, and with very little setup if so desired. It's > truly astounding the number of people who say they'd try linux if there was an > easy to do so, then promptly ignore the fact that most linux distributions > have cds you can buy or burn yourself that allow you to run a copy of linux > without even installing it. It doesn't get any easier than that. Windows > doesn't have that option, and yet, folks always complain linux is harder to > learn, when in actual fact, the learning curve on linux isn't truly any worse > than that of windows, especially since linux doesn't redesign it's operating > system every few years making it difficult or impossible to find things you've > been using for years. Windows does this all the time, and yet, folks continue > using it, when in actuality, switching to linux is simpler now than it has > ever been, what with skins that make your linux box look like a windows > system. The amount of free software on linux dwarfs the free software on > windows, and (finally), even companies are beginning to realize that the TCO > (total cost of ownership for linux is only a small subset of the cost for > running windows. And, yet, it still sits so under utilized by those who could > benefit from it the most. > > There's truly no reason not to give linux a try these days. The biggest > decision you need to make is which distro to try first. > > No reason why you can't try them all, though that would be a tall order, since > there's so many of them, but it's certainly possible. Generally, I recommend > ubuntu to folks who don't want to be bothered with fiddly details like keeping > the system up to date, or don't know how to do most things on the computer. > For those who are more tech savvy, I used to recommend slackware, but > unfortunately, they haven't updated in a while, and although I still use it, I > can't in good conscience recommend it to new users, even ones who want to know > how it all works. For that, I'd suggest one of the mandrake distribution > clones, although to be fair, Ubuntu really does do most of what a new linux > user needs, even those who want to know how it all works, since you can use as > many or as few of the we do it for you apps built in as you like. > > Linux has software to do just about anything you want. Even game creators are > finally getting the idea that hey, with the game engines we use, we can > release a linux version too, so that puts those complaints that there aren't > any gamess for linux to bed as well. > > It's all about choice with linux, and it's all up to you to decide how much > you want to accomplish. > > > On 4/3/2023 9:51 PM, Marda wrote: > > Well I am aware of linux's roles in those areas but was speaking as an end > > user who is not tech savvy. I used to have a frfiend (we have since lost > > touch) who did a lot with programming in linux environments and with screen > > readers for it and all that but when I was referring to popularity I should > > have made it clear that I was talking about us average paeon end users who > > have little tech background and limited to no experience or at least limited > > to no positive experience with linuxx. > > > > Marda > > > > On 4/3/2023 2:50 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >> Many end users pick the wrong distribution for themselves and run into a > >> bad learning curve then give up. > >> Those of us who have been using Linux for a while know not to ever > >> recommend Gentoo to new users. Other easier options exist. Linux is very > >> popular although not necessarily with the home users. Linux runs google > >> and runs most of the servers on the internet be they corporate or > >> Government. So it depends on which sector of the internet is cherry > >> picked. Without Linux, an internet to run ecommerce and windows wouldn't > >> be around today since the hackers would have over-run it long ago. Make > >> no mistake Linux is under attack from the hackers and so far it has > >> managed to stay a few steps ahead of them but Windows no matter the > >> version is a virus magnet. > >> > >> > >> -- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in > >> defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that > >> order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. > >> > >> On Mon, 3 Apr 2023, Marda wrote: > >> > >>> Yes but then why isn't linux more popular? It's got a lot of wonderful > >>> qualities but it's not as intuitive or easy for a new end user to use. > >>> There > >>> are developers for windows machines, smartphones and so on that do have > >>> free > >>> games, even for amazon echo devices, google devices and so on. They may > >>> not > >>> be always as fancy or exactly what a person wants and I know it's > >>> frustrating > >>> if you want a specific game and it's out of your price range but some > >>> people > >>> develop games as a side thing on their own time as volunteers and some do > >>> it > >>> for a full time living and those people expect to be paid as any fulll > >>> time > >>> paid worker would. > >>> > >>> Marda > >>> > >>> On 4/3/2023 3:48 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >>>> The full-time developers need to be paid but the ones that make their > >>>> money doing other work and do part-time development are another story. > >>>> That's how linux got where it is today. The payment the linux developers > >>>> got and get is they often learn more about programming doing their linux > >>>> development than they manage to do in the careers where they make their > >>>> money. A loss for employers but our gain. > >>>> Aside from that, the linux developers get to work on the best supported > >>>> operating systems on the planet. Microsoft can't match that level of > >>>> support. > >>>> -- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used > >>>> in > >>>> defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that > >>>> order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#126147): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/126147 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/98016854/21656 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/21656/1071380848/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
