Are the stories called playlist? I did see a menu for that but right
now it's locked to me. Cara you have managed to get some really
awesome rides. I Have been watching youtube videos, and I want to get
one of those newer cars released with in the last month. That v12
engine sounds amazing. Also that new Camaro seems to be pretty great.
Ah will have to play around with getting to the message center. I
think I found it once and somehow collected a car. You know I don't
get how they made the menu accessible for the auto show some what but
then the auction house doesn't work at all. Kind of sad really. I will
have sometime to play today, so will see what I can get done. Anytime
you are up for making an audio tutorial that would be awesome. Yes I
have the habbit of driving way too fast passed the events, and not
knowing how to reverse, I keep driving so that I can give it another
try using the map, to navigate back there. I wonder if sending
playground a tweet or something would get any attention from them. I
know turn10 and playground studios are not exactly the same but surely
those teams communicate, so they have to know what is going on with
what turn10 is doing with accessibility. Maybe they could work on
small patches to fix certain things until, they start working on fh 6.
I was a little sad when I realize I couldn't work on custom tunes for
cars. Also it would be fun to paint them if we chose. Don't know if
anyone got a change to play the crew Motorfest beta, but I really
wonder if they did anything with accessibility there. Anyways enough
of my rambling for now. I hope everyone has a lovely Sunday.

On 8/6/23, Cara Quinn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Joshua,
>
> On your way to race events, you should also come across stories as well.
>
> So you can progress in the game that way.
>
> It’s also possible to access some of the stories through one of the menus
> that does not speak, but I can’t remember which one it is just at the
> minute. -My apologies.
>
> I’ll see if I can find it tomorrow.
>
> Have a great night, Joshua, and apologies that I can’t be of more help just
> now.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Cara
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Aug 5, 2023, at 10:42 PM, Joshua Tubbs <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hmm. I hope the race events lead to progress in the story though? Or are
>> accolades required as well?
>> I have that accessibility option to bypass difficult challenges, can't
>> remember the exact option offhand.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 7:55 PM Cara Quinn <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> Hi Joshua,
>>>
>>> You might try the tip I mentioned about just picking a random direction
>>> on the map and clicking anywhere to set a route.
>>>
>>> Once you get there, you can try Anna again from there. Since it will be
>>> further away from your earlier location, she may not route you back to
>>> the same event.
>>>
>>> Also, make sure you’re choosing race events and not accolades. This makes
>>> a big difference.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps and please do let us know.
>>>
>>> If I can suggest anything else, I sure will.
>>>
>>> Best of luck!
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Cara
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 5, 2023, at 11:45 AM, Joshua Tubbs <[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The issue I'm having with Anna now is that I can't seem to continue the
>>>> story event I started. Whichever race I'm close to she keeps leading me
>>>> back to it, and it's the Wing on a Prayre showcase.
>>>>
>>>> I wish she'd stop bringing me back to that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 7:36 AM Lenron <[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks so much for this info Cara, will put some of this into practice
>>>>> this weekend. I did do the wing on  a prayer event. Then I was given
>>>>> the option to do 2 other events. I tried to do one of those then for
>>>>> some weird reason I keep passing up the spot Anna is telling me to
>>>>> stop. I can't wait until I unlock access to her with using the d pad I
>>>>> am sure that will help. I did sort of notice how you can hear where
>>>>> there is something you can go to on the map by this little ding noise
>>>>> that maybe could have been a little louder. I have to agree if they
>>>>> would have talked to someone about accessibility or blind
>>>>> accessibility when working on this game they would have gotten things
>>>>> right. Narrator seems to talk way too much when reading menu items but
>>>>> doesn't read enough of the menus. When trying to play on pc I can see
>>>>> certain things with OCR, but not enough to really help. This is using
>>>>> NVDA by the way. I am also thinking about getting a wheel for the
>>>>> Xbox, especially because motorsport will be out in a couple months. I
>>>>> am going to try your trick for getting to the beach and see if it
>>>>> works out for me. Have you been able to collect any really cool cars?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/4/23, Cara Quinn <[email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi again, just a quick update:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regarding when characters are talking about stories or giving you
>>>>> > choices of
>>>>> > events to go to, In the case of a choice, pressing A should set a
>>>>> > route to
>>>>> > the first choice.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In the case of a story, if the character isn’t giving you a choice
>>>>> > then I’ve
>>>>> > found that they usually set a route for you automatically. So you
>>>>> > should not
>>>>> > press A at that point and just try driving. You should find that Anna
>>>>> > will
>>>>> > be guiding you.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Again, it’s not friendly and it would have been so simple to
>>>>> > implement fixes
>>>>> > for this sort of thing but I hope these tips help and don’t cause
>>>>> > more
>>>>> > confusion. :)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I found a lot of this by just trial and error.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hope this helps at least somewhat. :)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Cheers!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Cara
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Aug 4, 2023, at 3:55 PM, Cara Quinn <[email protected]
>>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hey Lenron,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Sorry for the delay. It’s been a busy day! :)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I’ll need to go back in the list archives and see what I sent along
>>>>> >> a few
>>>>> >> months back. It’s been a while since I went through the initial
>>>>> >> parts of
>>>>> >> the game but if you can let me know where you left off, that will
>>>>> >> be
>>>>> >> helpful.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> What I can say is that I believe the major sticking point in the
>>>>> >> beginning
>>>>> >> of the game is that you need to get to the first Showcase event
>>>>> >> which is
>>>>> >> called “On a Wing and a Prayer” and you’re not automatically routed
>>>>> >> there.
>>>>> >> More specifically, I think you can start with other races as well,
>>>>> >> but
>>>>> >> you’re just not given an automatic route to start. There are ways
>>>>> >> around
>>>>> >> this though.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I was actually able to do it myself by accident. It was really not
>>>>> >> clear
>>>>> >> to me what needed to be done at that point in the game but I was
>>>>> >> able to
>>>>> >> find the pin on the map and just pressed the A button to set a route
>>>>> >> to
>>>>> >> the On a Wing and a Prayer showcase event. If you do by chance have
>>>>> >> sighted help, the symbol for it is an airplane.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I didn’t know where I was going but I did know that I was going
>>>>> >> somewhere!
>>>>> >> lol!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> From what I remember, (and someone else may be able to correct me
>>>>> >> here) if
>>>>> >> you can locate that event on the map and complete it, you should
>>>>> >> have an
>>>>> >> easier time as it will not only open up more events and races on the
>>>>> >> map,
>>>>> >> but will also allow you to be routed to stories automatically.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> When you hear one of the characters talking about a story or choice
>>>>> >> of
>>>>> >> races for example, if you just press A without doing anything else,
>>>>> >> you
>>>>> >> should automatically be routed to the first choice. You can then
>>>>> >> progress
>>>>> >> in the game that way.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Until you can unlock the ability to just use the D-Pad to activate
>>>>> >> Anna
>>>>> >> for certain parts of the game, the game will not be super friendly
>>>>> >> but
>>>>> >> will absolutely be doable. It’s definitely not frustration-free and
>>>>> >> I
>>>>> >> really wish they would have had someone knowledgeable to consult
>>>>> >> with for
>>>>> >> this. -Or at least if they were able to do any kinds of updates to
>>>>> >> the
>>>>> >> accessibility systems to assist with the map, this would go a long
>>>>> >> way to
>>>>> >> making this a lot more fun to get started with.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> There are a few tips to keep in mind when using the map.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 1 you can move around the map either by using the left stick or the
>>>>> >> D-Pad.
>>>>> >> I prefer the D-Pad as I am guaranteed a straight line as I’m
>>>>> >> moving.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 2 You can zoom in or out on the map with the right and left
>>>>> >> triggers,
>>>>> >> respectively. This may make it easier to select pins.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 3 You can filter the map elements by first pressing the right
>>>>> >> shoulder
>>>>> >> button, then X, and finally A to clear all map elements. If you then
>>>>> >> use
>>>>> >> the D-Pad to move up and down, you should see a list of map elements
>>>>> >> that
>>>>> >> you can click on to show on the map. Once you show the map elements
>>>>> >> you
>>>>> >> want by selecting them, you can then press B to get back to the map
>>>>> >> where
>>>>> >> those elements will now be displayed.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 4 You can hear where pins are on the map. So when you hear one, you
>>>>> >> can
>>>>> >> simply press A to be routed there. Anna Should then let you know
>>>>> >> that your
>>>>> >> route is active and start giving you directions as you drive.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 5 If you happen to be on a route that you don’t want to be on, you
>>>>> >> can
>>>>> >> usually cancel it by just opening the map and clicking A.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 6 You can set a route to anywhere at all on the map even if you do
>>>>> >> not
>>>>> >> hear a pin. So this can at least get you started with driving. I’ll
>>>>> >> talk
>>>>> >> about this more below.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> For me, I located the first showcase event by using the D-Pad to
>>>>> >> move
>>>>> >> across the map back and forth. If I remember correctly, you’re
>>>>> >> really not
>>>>> >> that far away from the Wing and a Prayer showcase when you start, so
>>>>> >> it
>>>>> >> really only took a few passes across the map for me to find the pin.
>>>>> >> I
>>>>> >> can’t remember if it was north or south of me. but it wasn’t super
>>>>> >> far
>>>>> >> away, from what I can remember. Don’t hold me to it though! :)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> So for example, if I wanted to look for something that I only knew
>>>>> >> was
>>>>> >> north of me, I could either use D-Pad up if I knew it was straight
>>>>> >> north
>>>>> >> of me, and then press A when I heard the pin sound. Or, if I did not
>>>>> >> know
>>>>> >> specifically where it was, then I would simply hold right on the
>>>>> >> D-Pad
>>>>> >> until I reached the right edge of the map, click up once and then
>>>>> >> hold
>>>>> >> left until I reached the left side of the map and do the same thing
>>>>> >> again.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Holding the D-Pad moves the cursor pretty quickly so you only need
>>>>> >> to wait
>>>>> >> a couple of seconds so this is not as bad as it sounds.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> it’s of course not super friendly but you’ll also find that you need
>>>>> >> to do
>>>>> >> this less and less as the game progresses. Once Anna is enabled on
>>>>> >> the
>>>>> >> D-Pad, you can have her find races etc for you automatically.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> As I mentioned above, the other way you can use the map early in the
>>>>> >> game
>>>>> >> is simply to move the cursor anywhere at all on the map and click A
>>>>> >> to set
>>>>> >> a route there. What should happen is that you will be creating a
>>>>> >> route to
>>>>> >> wherever you are pointing and Anna should then begin giving you
>>>>> >> directions. You will most likely find that you will pass races,
>>>>> >> stories
>>>>> >> and events along the way and you should be able to join these to
>>>>> >> progress
>>>>> >> in the game that way.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> You can pretty much guarantee finding races like this if you choose
>>>>> >> a
>>>>> >> point really far away from where you are. When you open the map, you
>>>>> >> will
>>>>> >> be pointing at your position. So if you use the D-Pad and hold a
>>>>> >> direction, wait for a couple of seconds, and then press A, you
>>>>> >> should then
>>>>> >> have a pretty long route set and you should find several events that
>>>>> >> you
>>>>> >> can participate in along the way.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I still use this method to park at a place on the beach that I
>>>>> >> like.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I go to a particular race event and then just move the cursor all
>>>>> >> the way
>>>>> >> to the right on the map and set a route there. This gets me to a
>>>>> >> particular place on the beach on the east coast of the map.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I hope this helps for now. If you can give me any more details I may
>>>>> >> be
>>>>> >> able to be more specific.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I’ll see if I can find anything useful that I said on the list a
>>>>> >> few
>>>>> >> months back.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Best of luck!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Have a great weekend, and Happy Driving!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Cheers!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Cara
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 7:47 PM, Lenron <[email protected]
>>>>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hey Cara can you please give some info on things I need to get
>>>>> >>> passed
>>>>> >>> in Forza Horizon 5? I haven't really been able to get started with
>>>>> >>> that one. I noticed that if they could fixed the map and a few
>>>>> >>> other
>>>>> >>> sticking points we would be good to go. Some of the menus just
>>>>> >>> don't
>>>>> >>> speak at all. It's a shame Hogwarts Legacy isn't blind accessible.
>>>>> >>> I
>>>>> >>> really wanted to play this one. I really think we need to tap in
>>>>> >>> more
>>>>> >>> with devs and push for even more accessibility, or really start
>>>>> >>> creating our own main stream games. That everyone else can play.
>>>>> >>> Motorsport was the first time in a long time I pre-ordered a game.
>>>>> >>> I
>>>>> >>> wondere if anyone has been in touch with Ubisoft about making the
>>>>> >>> crew
>>>>> >>> motorfest blind accessible. The sounds for the cars in that game
>>>>> >>> is
>>>>> >>> amazing. It should be out in September.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On 8/3/23, Cara Quinn <[email protected]
>>>>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> Mich,
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Just my opinion, but if PS-5 is what you’re after, you really
>>>>> >>>> don’t need
>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> built-in drive unless you either have older PS games that you’d
>>>>> >>>> like to
>>>>> >>>> import or if you want to play movies like you mentioned.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> I’ll revisit the Blu-ray player to see if everything is accessible
>>>>> >>>> on
>>>>> >>>> it. I
>>>>> >>>> tried it when I got the console but at the time I was not
>>>>> >>>> completely
>>>>> >>>> familiar with navigating it with the controller so I will need to
>>>>> >>>> look
>>>>> >>>> at it
>>>>> >>>> again. I will let you know what I find.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Regarding X-Box, you can set it up independently from what I
>>>>> >>>> remember.
>>>>> >>>> If I
>>>>> >>>> remember correctly, the keystroke to turn on Narrator works right
>>>>> >>>> out of
>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> box so it’s really no biggie.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> From what I can remember, I actually think I had an easier time
>>>>> >>>> setting
>>>>> >>>> up
>>>>> >>>> the X-Box than I did with the PS-5 but that’s just me. :) Your
>>>>> >>>> milage
>>>>> >>>> may
>>>>> >>>> vary.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Anyway, have a great evening and best of luck with what you
>>>>> >>>> decide.
>>>>> >>>> Will
>>>>> >>>> write when I have more info.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Cheers!
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Cara
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 4:54 PM, <[email protected]
>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> <[email protected]
>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hi Cara and all. Yes you bring up a verry good point.
>>>>> >>>>> Accessibillidey
>>>>> >>>>> is
>>>>> >>>>> a verry Brod term and you almost have to divide the
>>>>> >>>>> accessibillidey
>>>>> >>>>> into
>>>>> >>>>> the different disibillideys for instance madder skills, vi,
>>>>> >>>>> blind,
>>>>> >>>>> wheel
>>>>> >>>>> chair etc. since what might be accessible to some one in a wheel
>>>>> >>>>> chair
>>>>> >>>>> might be pointless to play for those of us who have no sight or
>>>>> >>>>> verry
>>>>> >>>>> limmided sight. The same go’s for vi people who have some sight
>>>>> >>>>> verses
>>>>> >>>>> some one who has no sight things like couler contrast font size
>>>>> >>>>> and
>>>>> >>>>> other
>>>>> >>>>> things don’t mean anything to those of us who have no sight. I
>>>>> >>>>> have
>>>>> >>>>> played
>>>>> >>>>> audio games for years and I used to play my sisters Nintendo
>>>>> >>>>> first when
>>>>> >>>>> I
>>>>> >>>>> had some sight up until I was 6. So I am just trying to play some
>>>>> >>>>> more
>>>>> >>>>> console games. Of korce I need to save up for a consul and the
>>>>> >>>>> differences
>>>>> >>>>> between x box and ps 5 and the 2 different ps 5’s that are out
>>>>> >>>>> there
>>>>> >>>>> is
>>>>> >>>>> kindof overwhelming. That is why I am asking so many questions
>>>>> >>>>> and
>>>>> >>>>> trying
>>>>> >>>>> to get as much info as I can. I have saved up just a small amount
>>>>> >>>>> for
>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>> ps 5. I like that since I have seen vidiows of games using that
>>>>> >>>>> that
>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>> screen reader starts right away as I have said and there is no
>>>>> >>>>> need
>>>>> >>>>> for
>>>>> >>>>> sighted help when it comes to setting it up. I am sure the same
>>>>> >>>>> is true
>>>>> >>>>> of
>>>>> >>>>> x box but just from looking around on YouTube I can’t find any
>>>>> >>>>> vidiows
>>>>> >>>>> that show narader in action on x box except if you count those
>>>>> >>>>> that
>>>>> >>>>> show
>>>>> >>>>> you how to tern it off and on lol. From Mich.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> >>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Behalf Of
>>>>> >>>>> Cara
>>>>> >>>>> Quinn
>>>>> >>>>> Sent: August 3, 2023 5:32 PM
>>>>> >>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> >>>>> Cc: Cara Quinn <[email protected]
>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>;
>>>>> >>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch epople
>>>>> >>>>> have
>>>>> >>>>> found better x box? or ps 5?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hi Mich,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I have no idea about the Spiderman games and I’m wondering about
>>>>> >>>>> them
>>>>> >>>>> myself.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I have not heard anything definitive on this which brings up a
>>>>> >>>>> really
>>>>> >>>>> important point I think.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> This has come up here before, but the concept of accessibility is
>>>>> >>>>> kind
>>>>> >>>>> of
>>>>> >>>>> a pain the way it is used when people are describing games.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> For example, when I was looking up info on Hogwarts Legacy, it
>>>>> >>>>> looked,
>>>>> >>>>> for
>>>>> >>>>> all intents and purposes that the game could be played without
>>>>> >>>>> sight
>>>>> >>>>> but
>>>>> >>>>> that’s just not the case, unless I’m missing some really basic
>>>>> >>>>> features
>>>>> >>>>> somewhere. :)
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I can get through the menus and such but as I mentioned, the
>>>>> >>>>> most
>>>>> >>>>> basic
>>>>> >>>>> features of assisted navigation or having any kind of audio
>>>>> >>>>> guides etc
>>>>> >>>>> are
>>>>> >>>>> just not there. So I can’t find any way at present to really play
>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>> game
>>>>> >>>>> without assistance right from the start.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> So calling this game accessible is a no go in my opinion.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Anyway, so far, from what I’ve read on the Spiderman games, I
>>>>> >>>>> can’t
>>>>> >>>>> find
>>>>> >>>>> anything that specifically says that it has features that would
>>>>> >>>>> be
>>>>> >>>>> necessary or even helpful in actual game-play for someone
>>>>> >>>>> playing
>>>>> >>>>> without
>>>>> >>>>> any sight at all.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I’ll give the site you mentioned a look and see if I’ve missed
>>>>> >>>>> anything
>>>>> >>>>> though. I’m very curious.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Thanks Mich, if I find out anything more about any of the games
>>>>> >>>>> in
>>>>> >>>>> this
>>>>> >>>>> thread, I’ll be sure to let you know.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Have a great day!
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Cara
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 2:57 PM, <[email protected]
>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Hello yes that does help. I have played the Vale on the pc and
>>>>> >>>>>> beet
>>>>> >>>>>> it
>>>>> >>>>>> and liked the game. I have not played any of the other games
>>>>> >>>>>> you
>>>>> >>>>>> menchend. Is it true that the spiderman games would be pliable
>>>>> >>>>>> by
>>>>> >>>>>> those
>>>>> >>>>>> of us who are blind? Since I red that on the websight
>>>>> >>>>>> caniplaythat.com <http://caniplaythat.com/>
>>>>> >>>>>> <http://caniplaythat.com/> from Mich.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> On Behalf Of
>>>>> >>>>>> Cara Quinn
>>>>> >>>>>> Sent: August 3, 2023 4:32 PM
>>>>> >>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Cc: Cara Quinn <[email protected]
>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch epople
>>>>> >>>>>> have
>>>>> >>>>>> found better x box? or ps 5?
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> also, on X-Box, there are The Vale - Shadow of the Crown, A
>>>>> >>>>>> Western
>>>>> >>>>>> Drama, and Forza Horizon 5.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> A Western Drama is fair at best, in my opinion, but is
>>>>> >>>>>> specifically
>>>>> >>>>>> designed for blind folks.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> I have The Vale - Shadow of the Crown, but have not gotten into
>>>>> >>>>>> it
>>>>> >>>>>> yet. I
>>>>> >>>>>> believe it is also specifically designed to be played without
>>>>> >>>>>> sight,
>>>>> >>>>>> as
>>>>> >>>>>> it has no graphics to speak of.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Forza Horizon 5 is my favorite game at the minute, (and it has
>>>>> >>>>>> been
>>>>> >>>>>> for
>>>>> >>>>>> some time now) but I would say, is somewhat accessible. There
>>>>> >>>>>> are a
>>>>> >>>>>> few
>>>>> >>>>>> sticking points in the game but once you get past them and learn
>>>>> >>>>>> how
>>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>> game works, you can certainly enjoy about 75 percent of it
>>>>> >>>>>> accessibly.
>>>>> >>>>>> It’s far from perfect but It really is very good for a
>>>>> >>>>>> mainstream
>>>>> >>>>>> racing
>>>>> >>>>>> experience.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> I’m also looking forward to the release of the next Forza
>>>>> >>>>>> Motorsport.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Regarding PS-5, Really, the only games I’ve found so far to be
>>>>> >>>>>> completely
>>>>> >>>>>> accessible, are the Last of Us 1 and 2.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> I’m also playing Hogwarts Legacy with a friend and while it is
>>>>> >>>>>> sort
>>>>> >>>>>> of
>>>>> >>>>>> accessible in some ways, it lacks some crucial features for
>>>>> >>>>>> simple
>>>>> >>>>>> in-game navigation which really make it close to impossible to
>>>>> >>>>>> play
>>>>> >>>>>> without sight.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Hogwarts Legacy is also available on X-Box but right now I’m
>>>>> >>>>>> only
>>>>> >>>>>> playing
>>>>> >>>>>> it on PS-5. If I try it on X-Box and find that it’s any better,
>>>>> >>>>>> I
>>>>> >>>>>> will
>>>>> >>>>>> certainly let y'all know.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> I’m trying to research other truly blind-accessible games for
>>>>> >>>>>> PS-5 at
>>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>> minute as well, so I am also interested in other’s experiences
>>>>> >>>>>> with
>>>>> >>>>>> this.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps and have a great day!
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Cara
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 5:59 AM, Lenron <[email protected]
>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Diablo iv, forza motorsport will be comes out in a couple
>>>>> >>>>>>> months. As
>>>>> >>>>>>> dusk falls. Are a few I can think of off the top of my head.
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/3/23, goshawk on horseback
>>>>> >>>>>>> <[email protected]
>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am still trying to find what accessible games, if there are
>>>>> >>>>>>>> any,
>>>>> >>>>>>>> are
>>>>> >>>>>>>> available for xbox, as that is what I have.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Jen .
>>>>> >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2023 9:25 AM
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch
>>>>> >>>>>>>> epople
>>>>> >>>>>>>> have
>>>>> >>>>>>>> found better x box? or ps 5?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> What genres of games are available for both systems and what
>>>>> >>>>>>>> version
>>>>> >>>>>>>> of
>>>>> >>>>>>>> both systems have the accessibility.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would either one of these systems be playable by someone with
>>>>> >>>>>>>> no
>>>>> >>>>>>>> vision.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jen
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>   On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:58 AM, goshawk on horseback
>>>>> >>>>>>>> <[email protected]
>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>   
>>>>> >>>>>>>>   I would agree with this, as whilst I have heard about the
>>>>> >>>>>>>> speech
>>>>> >>>>>>>> being
>>>>> >>>>>>>> available on the PS5, I have also heard that it isn't up to
>>>>> >>>>>>>> much,
>>>>> >>>>>>>> where
>>>>> >>>>>>>> as I
>>>>> >>>>>>>> can say that the speech on the Xbox is good.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>   Simon
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>>>>>>>     From: michael barnes
>>>>> >>>>>>>>     To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>     Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2023 4:36 AM
>>>>> >>>>>>>>     Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch
>>>>> >>>>>>>> epople
>>>>> >>>>>>>> have
>>>>> >>>>>>>> found better x box? or ps 5?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>     I prefer the Xbox. I feel that the Xbox is more accessible
>>>>> >>>>>>>> than
>>>>> >>>>>>>> PlayStation five. However, it is a persons preference.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>       On Aug 2, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Mich Verrier
>>>>> >>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>       
>>>>> >>>>>>>>       Hi all I am also wondering witch game consul is better x
>>>>> >>>>>>>> box?
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Or
>>>>> >>>>>>>> ps
>>>>> >>>>>>>> 5? I have red about PS 5 Thor Ragnarock edditions as well and
>>>>> >>>>>>>> would
>>>>> >>>>>>>> like to
>>>>> >>>>>>>> know what those are? Also are you able to use the PS 5 To play
>>>>> >>>>>>>> blue
>>>>> >>>>>>>> ray
>>>>> >>>>>>>> movies? And if so is the accessibillidey extend to just games?
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Or
>>>>> >>>>>>>> if
>>>>> >>>>>>>> you
>>>>> >>>>>>>> wanted to play a blue ray dvd of a movie could you do it and
>>>>> >>>>>>>> still
>>>>> >>>>>>>> have
>>>>> >>>>>>>> a
>>>>> >>>>>>>> screen reader option reading you the menu? I know that this
>>>>> >>>>>>>> can be
>>>>> >>>>>>>> dun
>>>>> >>>>>>>> on a
>>>>> >>>>>>>> PS 5 playing blue rays I mean  so I thought I would ask if
>>>>> >>>>>>>> playing
>>>>> >>>>>>>> blue
>>>>> >>>>>>>> ray
>>>>> >>>>>>>> movies would also be possible but was not shure about the menu
>>>>> >>>>>>>> of
>>>>> >>>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>>> ps 5
>>>>> >>>>>>>> if it would read out what you needed toknow or if it was only
>>>>> >>>>>>>> for
>>>>> >>>>>>>> gameing? I
>>>>> >>>>>>>> have never dun this before and so that is the reason why I
>>>>> >>>>>>>> thought
>>>>> >>>>>>>> I
>>>>> >>>>>>>> would
>>>>> >>>>>>>> ask. Many thanks. From Mich Verrier from Temiskaming Shores
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ontario
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Canada.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>> Lenron Brown
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Skype: ron.brown762
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> --
>>>>> >>> Lenron Brown
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Skype: ron.brown762
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Lenron Brown
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype: ron.brown762
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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