Hello all I know that Brandon Cole who I am not sure is on this list was 
working on that moder sport game. It sounds cool. As far as other games that 
looked fun that I watched on caniplaythat.com the street fighter game sounded 
fun but it wasn't accessible. I would like to know what the game Forza Horizon 
5? What kind of game it is and what it is about etc.? ny fave types of games 
are fps games and action and racing and adventure games etc. it would be nice 
if there was a resource for games for these platforms that are made for only 
blind people. Shure
https://caniplaythat.com/ 
is a good sight it doesn't really brake down the games from a disability 
standpoint so there is no category for instance just for blind game players and 
another for vi players. Honestly that's really what has to happen since I 
realise that accessible miens different things to different people and that all 
should be able to play but honestly with out having a brake down like this it 
is kind of hard to know what some one who is totally blind could play vs a 
person with some sight. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: August 3, 2023 9:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch epople have found 
better x box? or ps 5?

Hey Cara can you please give some info on things I need to get passed in Forza 
Horizon 5? I haven't really been able to get started with that one. I noticed 
that if they could fixed the map and a few other sticking points we would be 
good to go. Some of the menus just don't speak at all. It's a shame Hogwarts 
Legacy isn't blind accessible. I really wanted to play this one. I really think 
we need to tap in more with devs and push for even more accessibility, or 
really start creating our own main stream games. That everyone else can play.
Motorsport was the first time in a long time I pre-ordered a game. I wondere if 
anyone has been in touch with Ubisoft about making the crew motorfest blind 
accessible. The sounds for the cars in that game is amazing. It should be out 
in September.


On 8/3/23, Cara Quinn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mich,
>
> Just my opinion, but if PS-5 is what you’re after, you really don’t 
> need the built-in drive unless you either have older PS games that 
> you’d like to import or if you want to play movies like you mentioned.
>
> I’ll revisit the Blu-ray player to see if everything is accessible on 
> it. I tried it when I got the console but at the time I was not 
> completely familiar with navigating it with the controller so I will 
> need to look at it again. I will let you know what I find.
>
> Regarding X-Box, you can set it up independently from what I remember. 
> If I remember correctly, the keystroke to turn on Narrator works right 
> out of the box so it’s really no biggie.
>
> From what I can remember, I actually think I had an easier time 
> setting up the X-Box than I did with the PS-5 but that’s just me. :) 
> Your milage may vary.
>
> Anyway, have a great evening and best of luck with what you decide. 
> Will write when I have more info.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Cara
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 4:54 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Cara and all. Yes you bring up a verry good point. Accessibillidey 
>> is a verry Brod term and you almost have to divide the 
>> accessibillidey into the different disibillideys for instance madder 
>> skills, vi, blind, wheel chair etc. since what might be accessible to 
>> some one in a wheel chair might be pointless to play for those of us 
>> who have no sight or verry limmided sight. The same go’s for vi 
>> people who have some sight verses some one who has no sight things 
>> like couler contrast font size and other things don’t mean anything 
>> to those of us who have no sight. I have played audio games for years 
>> and I used to play my sisters Nintendo first when I had some sight up 
>> until I was 6. So I am just trying to play some more console games. 
>> Of korce I need to save up for a consul and the differences between x 
>> box and ps 5 and the 2 different ps 5’s that are out there is kindof 
>> overwhelming. That is why I am asking so many questions and trying to 
>> get as much info as I can. I have saved up just a small amount for 
>> the ps 5. I like that since I have seen vidiows of games using that 
>> that the screen reader starts right away as I have said and there is 
>> no need for sighted help when it comes to setting it up. I am sure 
>> the same is true of x box but just from looking around on YouTube I 
>> can’t find any vidiows that show narader in action on x box except if you 
>> count those that show you how to tern it off and on lol. From Mich.
>>
>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
>> Cara Quinn
>> Sent: August 3, 2023 5:32 PM
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Cc: Cara Quinn <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>;
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch epople have 
>> found better x box? or ps 5?
>>
>> Hi Mich,
>>
>> I have no idea about the Spiderman games and I’m wondering about them 
>> myself.
>>
>> I have not heard anything definitive on this which brings up a really 
>> important point I think.
>>
>> This has come up here before, but the concept of accessibility is 
>> kind of a pain the way it is used when people are describing games.
>>
>> For example, when I was looking up info on Hogwarts Legacy, it 
>> looked, for all intents and purposes that the game could be played 
>> without sight but that’s just not the case, unless I’m missing some 
>> really basic features somewhere. :)
>>
>> I can get through the menus and such but as I mentioned, the most 
>> basic features of assisted navigation or having any kind of audio 
>> guides etc are just not there. So I can’t find any way at present to 
>> really play the game without assistance right from the start.
>>
>> So calling this game accessible is a no go in my opinion.
>>
>> Anyway, so far, from what I’ve read on the Spiderman games, I can’t 
>> find anything that specifically says that it has features that would 
>> be necessary or even helpful in actual game-play for someone playing 
>> without any sight at all.
>>
>> I’ll give the site you mentioned a look and see if I’ve missed 
>> anything though. I’m very curious.
>>
>> Thanks Mich, if I find out anything more about any of the games in 
>> this thread, I’ll be sure to let you know.
>>
>> Have a great day!
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Cara
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 2:57 PM, <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello yes that does help. I have played the Vale on the pc and beet 
>>> it and liked the game. I have not played any of the other games you 
>>> menchend. Is it true that the spiderman games would be pliable by 
>>> those of us who are blind? Since I red that on the websight 
>>> caniplaythat.com <http://caniplaythat.com/> from Mich.
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf 
>>> Of Cara Quinn
>>> Sent: August 3, 2023 4:32 PM
>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Cara Quinn <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch epople 
>>> have found better x box? or ps 5?
>>>
>>> also, on X-Box, there are The Vale - Shadow of the Crown, A Western 
>>> Drama, and Forza Horizon 5.
>>>
>>> A Western Drama is fair at best, in my opinion, but is specifically 
>>> designed for blind folks.
>>>
>>> I have The Vale - Shadow of the Crown, but have not gotten into it 
>>> yet. I believe it is also specifically designed to be played without 
>>> sight, as it has no graphics to speak of.
>>>
>>> Forza Horizon 5 is my favorite game at the minute, (and it has been 
>>> for some time now) but I would say, is somewhat accessible. There 
>>> are a few sticking points in the game but once you get past them and 
>>> learn how the game works, you can certainly enjoy about 75 percent of it 
>>> accessibly.
>>> It’s far from perfect but It really is very good for a mainstream 
>>> racing experience.
>>>
>>> I’m also looking forward to the release of the next Forza Motorsport.
>>>
>>> Regarding PS-5, Really, the only games I’ve found so far to be 
>>> completely accessible, are the Last of Us 1 and 2.
>>>
>>> I’m also playing Hogwarts Legacy with a friend and while it is sort 
>>> of accessible in some ways, it lacks some crucial features for 
>>> simple in-game navigation which really make it close to impossible 
>>> to play without sight.
>>>
>>> Hogwarts Legacy is also available on X-Box but right now I’m only 
>>> playing it on PS-5. If I try it on X-Box and find that it’s any 
>>> better, I will certainly let y'all know.
>>>
>>> I’m trying to research other truly blind-accessible games for PS-5 
>>> at the minute as well, so I am also interested in other’s 
>>> experiences with this.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps and have a great day!
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Cara
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 5:59 AM, Lenron <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Diablo iv, forza motorsport will be comes out in a couple months. 
>>>> As dusk falls. Are a few I can think of off the top of my head.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/3/23, goshawk on horseback 
>>>> <[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am still trying to find what accessible games, if there are any, 
>>>>> are available for xbox, as that is what I have.
>>>>>
>>>>> Simon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>  From: Jen .
>>>>>  To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>  Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2023 9:25 AM
>>>>>  Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch epople 
>>>>> have found better x box? or ps 5?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  What genres of games are available for both systems and what 
>>>>> version of both systems have the accessibility.
>>>>>  Would either one of these systems be playable by someone with no 
>>>>> vision.
>>>>>  Jen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:58 AM, goshawk on horseback 
>>>>> <[email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    
>>>>>    I would agree with this, as whilst I have heard about the 
>>>>> speech being available on the PS5, I have also heard that it isn't 
>>>>> up to much, where as I can say that the speech on the Xbox is 
>>>>> good.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Simon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>      From: michael barnes
>>>>>      To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>      Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2023 4:36 AM
>>>>>      Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch 
>>>>> epople have found better x box? or ps 5?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      I prefer the Xbox. I feel that the Xbox is more accessible 
>>>>> than PlayStation five. However, it is a persons preference.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>        On Aug 2, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Mich Verrier <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>        Hi all I am also wondering witch game consul is better x 
>>>>> box? Or ps 5? I have red about PS 5 Thor Ragnarock edditions as 
>>>>> well and would like to know what those are? Also are you able to 
>>>>> use the PS 5 To play blue ray movies? And if so is the 
>>>>> accessibillidey extend to just games? Or if you wanted to play a 
>>>>> blue ray dvd of a movie could you do it and still have a screen 
>>>>> reader option reading you the menu? I know that this can be dun on 
>>>>> a PS 5 playing blue rays I mean  so I thought I would ask if 
>>>>> playing blue ray movies would also be possible but was not shure 
>>>>> about the menu of the ps 5 if it would read out what you needed 
>>>>> toknow or if it was only for gameing? I have never dun this before 
>>>>> and so that is the reason why I thought I would ask. Many thanks. 
>>>>> From Mich Verrier from Temiskaming Shores Ontario Canada.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Lenron Brown
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Skype: ron.brown762
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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