I have a further suggestion.  When information is posted that includes a 
reference to a diagram Ray, or who ever is posting it, should enlist the 
help of one of us partials to write a verbal description of the figure.  I 
have considerable experience in doing this and am willing to do my share of 
the work.

Regards.

Max.  K 4 O D S.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques


> Hi All,
>
> If I can weigh in here for a minute.
>
> I thought Mickey's post was done well, and I didn't think there was 
> anything wrong with it.
>
> I just don't think that Mickey was necessarily thinking about the over 200 
> members on the list, and the fact that some of them, whether it be a small 
> portion or large portion of our members, have usable sight, such as Don 
> Shaw, or Boop, and for a time, before I went completely dark, I had some 
> usable vision, as well, so Ray's posts do have merit, whether they be from 
> a blind or sighted perspective.
>
> There have been many different opinions on this subject, some agreed with 
> Mickey, and some did not, in any case, it is not up to a regular member on 
> the list to decide where the list goes, it is up to the list owner and 
> moderator.
>
> If you have problems with how the list is being run, or the direction that 
> it is taking, feel free to write the owner or moderator.  I mean, Jesus, 
> there are, I think, something like four or five moderators, and I'm sure 
> you get along with, at least, one of them.
>
> Another point is that these problems should be discussed off-list, not on 
> list.
>
> When the necessary changes are to be implemented, and or if the owner and 
> moderators feel that a consensus is needed from list members, then the 
> subject should be broached on-list, otherwise, comments on list practises 
> and allowances should be kept off-list.
>
> Lastly, there is one suggestion I would have for Ray, and that is, he 
> should include the original website address with his posts, this serves 
> two purposes...
>
> First, it allows the reader to check it's legitimacy, and accuracy, and 
> allows for added ability of the reader to add the website to their 
> favourites list.
>
> Secondly, it allows for the reader to go onto the website and check out if 
> there's more stuff the reader might want to glean from it.
>
> I know of such posts that Ray has submitted where the information was, in 
> a way what I was looking for, but had just the right amount off as to be 
> useless to me, however, I wanted to go to the website to see if there 
> might have been an addendum to the article that would've included that 
> subtle difference that would have adapted the article to suit me.
>
> In any case, these suggestions have allowed the groups that I moderate to 
> work alright, and I offer these ideas as suggestions for possible 
> application.
>
> Victor Gouveia
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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