I have a question about aligning small hinges. My radio desk is finished except for applying the finishing coat. It will sit in front of an H V A C vent so I made a cutout in the back for the air to come through. I don't want the cold air to blow on me when I am sitting there so I saved the cutout peace and hinged it to make a trap door I can close when I want to. I couldn't get the hinges aligned right. They are close enough but I wonder if anyone has any little tricks. It is inside and the space is too confined to get a carpenter's square inside and the hinges are too far from the end wall for a trisquare to reach. This is done and it's not very obvious to someone who sees the desk but if I ever have to do this again I would like to get it right.
Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. > Thanks Larry, > > I only hope I didn't leave anything significant out. > > I was surprised to read in one of the magazines you sent along a use of > the > biscuit joiner to cut grooves by sliding the unit along while running. It > never crossed my mind to do so but it is a quick and should be accurate > way > of cutting for splines and probably even the grooves to receive drawer > bottoms and other applications. > > Mine is a porter cable which I have had for four or five years now, it > includes a small cutter for #0 biscuits which I have used for mitering > frames corners. It means changing the cutter blade but pretty cool. > > I read another article or rather you did but the builder used it to > assemble > drawer boxes. quick and strong if not classic joinery. For a lot of > applications though this is exactly the answer, strong, accurate and fast. > > Any time that list members feel I may be over stepping they should feel > free > to say so. I often put quite a bit of effort into writing what I think is > a > clear explanation or description of things I have done or have observed > and > I do so because I am grateful for others who have taken the trouble to > inform me. It is difficult for most of us blind people to learn from > observation and sometimes it is just a very simple concept or > understanding > which, if missed can become a block to building more learning or > understanding. This is not unique to the blind but we have fewer > opportunities. I just hope to speed the process for others as others have > for me. > > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype DaleLeavens > Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:39 AM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. > > >> Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners. >> >> -- >> Larry Martin >> Woodworking for the Blind >> --joining the world of blind wood workers >> >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >> From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for >>> cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit >>> joiner >>> or also called a plate joiner. >>> >>> You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry >>> and >>> compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in >>> about >>> four sizes. >>> >>> The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on >>> one >>> side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength, dowels and >>> biscuits are not primarily for strengthening although they do that. The >>> primary function is to align the joint in most applications. Dowels >>> suffer >>> from the direction of the grain which is usually across the grain of the >>> mating surfaces and glue more firmly attaches in the long direction of >>> the >>> grain. The other main disadvantage of dowels is that accuracy is >>> absolutely >>> critical, not only must the holes align absolutely directly but they >>> must >>> be >>> absolutely in line. Biscuit joinery allows for a little error. >>> >>> The plate joiner has a carbide tipped blade which is on a spring loaded >>> travel. There is a fence, these vary from machine to machine but you can >>> set >>> the fence a particular distance from the slot through which the blade >>> will >>> protrude and will be parallel to the slot. Most will allow the fence to >>> be >>> tilted in both directions to allow you to cut slots in mitered >>> assemblies >>> and other angled fixation of differing angles. You can index off the >>> fence >>> or index off the bottom flat surface of the joiner. >>> >>> You then set the fence on the face of a board and bring the face with >>> the >>> slot tight against the edge of the board holding it there using a handle >>> built for that purpose then turn on the machine and using the other hand >>> you >>> force the cutter through the slot and into the edge against the springs >>> which plunges the blade into the edge of the board. Release so it runs >>> back >>> out with the spring assist then release the trigger so it shuts off. >>> >>> When I built my work bench I made up a frame rather like the shape of >>> angle >>> iron using three quarters plywood one edge to the face of the other and >>> joined those with biscuits. I then mitered the corners and joined them >>> with >>> biscuits and clamped them up square. I might have used screws but I >>> never >>> would have got the corners strong that way and doweling the edges of >>> plywood >>> isn't all that satisfactory or probably reliable. >>> >>> when the biscuits get wet with glue not only does the glue bond but they >>> swell and actually if you don't work fairly quickly they can be very >>> difficult to set. This can be a disat\dvantage, Norm has mentioned on a >>> couple of shows that biscuits set too close to the surface can cause >>> slight >>> dimpling to telegraph through the surface as the glue ages and I suppose >>> the >>> wood responds to changes in environmental moisture. On a very smooth >>> finish >>> this can be visible. So far I haven't noticed this. >>> >>> There is a new unit out there, called a domino joiner I believe, cuts a >>> more >>> rectangular hole and uses rectangular biscuits and an oscilating cutting >>> action. These work more like floating mortise & tennon joints. I am not >>> otherwise sure of the advantages, if they index easily enough I suppose >>> you >>> could use them to join rails & styles without cutting proper mortise & >>> tenon >>> joints. The biscuit joiners are plenty expensive but these domino >>> joiners >>> are really a lot more costly. >>> >>> Generally the correct term is Jointer. The machine is also sometimes >>> called >>> a planer but more usually that refers to a device for thicknessing the >>> face >>> of wood or for the hand held planers more usually with a 3 inch wide >>> cutter >>> head intended primarily for removing stock like the edge of a door. >>> Joiner >>> is sometimes used to refer to a jointer and I hear it more commonly used >>> these days but the manufacturers still seem to refer to them as >>> jointers. >>> >>> Hope this helps clear things up for you. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Skype DaleLeavens >>> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Max Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Blind Handyman" <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:36 PM >>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions. >>> >>> >>> >I have watched only one episode of the Yankee workshop and already I >>> >have >>> > questions. >>> > >>> > He did a bisket joint. They didn't show him making the bisket. Do >>> > you >>> > buy >>> > them pre made? It was elliptical in shape which seems hard to make. >>> > He >>> > made the cutout with a plunge router which looked like he was making a >>> > basically rectangular shaped cutout. When he dropped the bisket into >>> > the >>> > cutout it didn't fit at all tight. Also it went in more than half the >>> > width >>> > of the bisket. There was just a little peaking out. All in all this >>> > doesn't seem like a very strong joint. In an infomercial I saw >>> > someone >>> > making a dowel joint. It seems to me to be a much stronger joint. >>> > How >>> > does >>> > a bisket joint compare to a dowel joint. Also I'm not sure but I >>> > think >>> > he >>> > was using some kind of guide to keep the router in the center of the >>> > edge >>> > of >>> > the board. If there is such a thing, what is it called? >>> > >>> > Also a pronunciation question. Dale and I had a conversation the >>> > other >>> > night on FTP about a jointer. The yankee used one on the show but he >>> > pronounced it joiner. Which is correct? Does it depend on where you >>> > come >>> > from? >>> > >>> > Regards. >>> > >>> > Max. 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