Incredibly helpful, Dale, thanks. I like the urethane idea for the edges. I 
really don't want to try and adhere the trim, the edges are all curved and I 
just know that'll be a nightmare. 

I'll probably use one of those sponge sandpaper blocks to smooth out the edges 
of the hole after sawing it, and now that you suggest the urethane, I may use 
that on the insides of that hole until I can find a suitable plastic flange to 
insert in there. My old desk had one that rested flush in the desktop and if 
you slid the plastic casing open you could put the cords through or if you 
didn't have cords, just close it. If I can't find one at Office Depot or 
OfficeMax, I may look into ordering one from O'Sullivan, who made my old desk. 
But even if I were to leave the hole as-is, the urethane would probably finish 
it off just fine. Thanks.


Best,
Joe Monks


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Anybody have experience w/this grade plywood?


  He should be able to sell you edge trim Formica that matches the top. This is 
the usual way and you apply it with contact cement then trim it flush to the 
top.

  Non-water soluble finishes won't swell the particle board though and another 
option is a little oil based paint, I now prefer Melamine paint, it is a little 
expensive though. You can probably also buy a small container of some 
polyurethane finish but again be sure it is oil based. Takes a little longer to 
cure and stinks more but protects well particularly against moisture and 
because it isn't water based it doesn't swell the sawdust board.

  If you mark the centre of the hole and use a hole saw in a drill it should go 
well. Start on the good side so the pilot drill doesn't split through the good 
surface and once a little way into the counter material go to the other side, 
centre the pilot in the original hole and drill until the cuts meet. This will 
keep a nice clean entry hole on the finished side.

  I like to just touch the finished edge of the laminate with a bit of sand 
paper or a file to knock off the sharpness.

  Hope this is helpful.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chanting Monks 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Anybody have experience w/this grade plywood?

  Thanks, Dale, much appreciated. I was surprised at the price myself. I was 
actually thinking about using a good door for my desktop, but the kitchen 
countertop was only $60 for a 6 foot wide surface, which should fit perfectly 
into the room I use for my office. I'll probably wind up keeping the bases very 
simple, w/out dados or biscuits, but just got a new drill guide for predrilling 
all my holes and my dowel holes for supporting the shelves (I prefer dowels to 
those little stereo cabinet shelf pins they sell). I'm slightly concerned about 
having to use my hole saw through the rear of the countertop, though. I don't 
want to shred the formica edges and rip up the particle board. I've drilled 
formica and similar before, using masking tape over the spot to be drilled, but 
usually with much smaller holes (half inch). To have enough room to squirrel my 
cords through, I need a good two inch diameter hole unless I come up with 
another option. I hate having a zillion wires hanging everywhere.

  One other question for anybody--the top and front of the countertop is a thin 
formica. The sides, since this is designed to go into a kitchen and butt up 
against two other countertops, is exposed particleboard. Any thoughts about 
some sort of finish that would keep those edges from getting ragged? There is a 
spray plastic that the guy at Home Depot suggested, but he had never used it 
before, and I'm wary of using anything liquid on the particle board. Any 
suggestions?

  Best,
  Joe Monks

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Anybody have experience w/this grade plywood?

  3/4 cabinet grade plywood is about ideal for the job. It doesn't hold screws 
into the edge wonderfully well but there isn't a plywood that does and if you 
pre-drill so the screw doesn't split the plies apart and the really anal would 
and all of us should dip the screws in wood glue, they will hold really well. 
If you have the equipment to cut dados for shelves and form rabbets for corner 
joints or can instal biscuits or use some of those very fancy "knock-down" 
hardware fasteners so much the better.

  I have made a lot of desks and shelves with 3/4ths plywood and little of it 
as good as cabinet grade. The price sounds really good too compared with what 
they make me pay and they manufacture the stuff not 2,000 yards from my front 
door.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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  Skype DaleLeavens
  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chanting Monks 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:55 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Anybody have experience w/this grade plywood?

  Hi folks,

  I'm making myself a new desk, using a kitchen countertop that I came across 
at Home Depot that seems pretty sturdy (formica covering particleboard). I want 
to use for my hutch and cabinet bases a 3/4 inch cabinet grade plywood. Home 
Depot has it for $25.88 per 4 foot by 8 foot sheet, and it feels pretty good, 
finished both sides, and two sheets would give me ample wood for both the hutch 
and right and left base. Anybody use this kind of wood before? I'm not planning 
on putting in drawers or doors to close it in, all I really need is to box it 
for two shelves for each base. Can't imagine the shelves bearing any more than 
ten, maybe twelve pounds, tops. Looks are not a concern. heck, if I could have 
found a green countertop with yellow polka dots and pink plaid swirls that 
would save me another ten bucks, I'd go for it. :)

  TIA,
  Joe

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