Most of the times I can remember how the wood was joined. Where I know I will get in trouble I usually mark the under side. The one place where I get in trouble and get sighted assistance is on my plant stands. The tops of these stands are constructed of four pieces of 1 1/2"stock. Two pieces are 6 3/8 long and the other two are 9 3/8". There is finally a decora5tive 6" tile placed in the middle. Anyway If I totally sand the top I do get some cross grain sanding marks on two of the sides. I can carefully remove them if I can feel the end grain on the 9" pieces but to make sure I scratch a line on the underside where it will be concealed by the aprons. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Random orbit sander
Not to pull this topic away from the initial discussion, but when wood is rough or has been wet, you can feel the grain, but as you sand it down, it becomes more difficult. How do you determine which direction the grain is going or do you simply have to remember all this while your working the piece. I know my sense of touch is not quite as sharp as it used to be and that probably is do to playing bass. Just curious how folks keep the grain direction straight. tnx On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote: > I always use a sanding block for the last sanding step and make sure > that I > am going with the grain. > I always use a sanding block so the sand paper is flat. If you just > use your > hand you can get some very slight concave marks that will show in > the final > finish. Learned that the hard way. > I know a woodworker who makes very expensive cherry pieces. Most > start over > $5,000. Anyway he told me one tip that he uses and I would or could > not try. > For his final sanding he first evenly sprays a very light coat of > water to > raise the grain and sands that off. > The other thing he only ever uses 100 grit paper. He sprays his > stain and > final finishes. He told me that the lacker fills and levels the > table tops. > He sprays many coats of lacker and hand rubs the finish. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Vos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:33 PM > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Random orbit sander > > > Thanks. > It is labeled "random" orbit. > I'll have to try some finer grit paper. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dale Leavens > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Random orbit sander > > > Hi Tom, > > Random orbit sanders aren't supposed to leave that swirl pattern > however > there is a difference between orbital sanders and so called random > orbital > sanders. You may have an orbital sander not a random orbital sander. > Orbital > sanders certainly do leave a swirl pattern which is fine when > painting but > most translucent finishes will show the swirl pattern through, in > fact often > you won't see the swirls until you apply a finish to the wood. > > You can mitigate this by working down through ever finer grits to > around 5 > or 600 but for best success you need to step finer in quite small > increments > so that each grade removes some of the swirls of the grade above. > You might > then have to polish a little by hand working the direction of the > wood or > finish with a fine scraper to remove the last of the marks. > > I have had a few orbital sanders, fine for preparing for paint or for > polishing plaster but not much else. A good random orbit sander will > cost in > the range of a hundred or more bucks. > > Hope some of this is helpful. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Vos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:22 PM > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Random orbit sander > > >> Hi folks, >> I have a random orbit sander, wich I got because someone told me >> you don't >> have to worry about the grain direction, so you can sand where >> grain meets >> grain at 90 degrees -- like the rails on the desk front I'm building. >> The sander makes the surface feel polish smooth to me, but my wife >> has >> this >> pesky ability to see, and she says the sander leaves tiny swirls in >> the >> wood. 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