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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mycell Armington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help--my floor is leaking upwards!


> Hi Dale,
>    The temps aren't much warmer here. 30's and 40's. It's just not warming 
> up enough. Now I do like my snow but all in all, I'm glad that I'm not 
> snowed in.
>
> It's not really a strong slope at all very gentle actually, but what I'm 
> wondering about if this same water accumulation is causing the back up in 
> my commodes at the same time and the rain is coming down. Some how I think 
> the high water I think is causing both problems. By the way, what's the 
> best surface sealant for this kind of project and what's the procedure to 
> apply it. I'm going to have to pull up the carpet and all that kind of 
> thing and right now it seems like a miserable project. Is there also any 
> particular cleaning that I need to do to the floor before I apply the 
> sealant?.
>
> Thanks again to all of you for your responses and help. I'll keep you 
> posted on this situation.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Mycell
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Dale Leavens
>  To: [email protected]
>  Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:24 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help--my floor is leaking upwards!
>
>
>  Hello Mycell,
>
>  Robert has described one potentially pretty good solution. I would add 
> that you might extend the drain down hill as far away as you can from the 
> building if that is an option and dig and install a dry well. These can be 
> variably sophisticated but mostly you dig a hole and fill it with crushed 
> rock with a sort of barrel with holes in it like a colander into which the 
> drain is inserted. You could add a weeping bed I suppose but this should 
> not be necessary. the holey barrel has a relief float arrangement at the 
> top to allow water to escape should the well fill beyond capacity, being 
> down hill from the problem the excess should continue to drain away.
>
>  I wonder though if the problem is of rain driving against the building 
> and migrating through. Ceramic tile is normally impermeable to water so 
> except for the grout it seems unlikely to me that the water is rising up 
> through the tile. After all, one often tiles showers and bathroom floors 
> to keep the water from draining through to surfaces below and behind the 
> tiles.
>
>  You say the building is made of concrete block. I once rented office 
> space in a strip mall with a concrete block wall. When wind drove rain 
> against that wall a certain amount would migrate through into the cavities 
> of the block and run down inside collecting at the bottom slowly filling 
> up the blocks. This hydraulic pressure and osmotic pressure being as the 
> inside of the building was dry and warm ultimately brought the water 
> through the block wall mostly ad the bottom of the wall.I have seen this 
> too in basements where the bottom of the wall leaked water across the 
> floor and drilling small holes in the bottom of the block drained them 
> releasing a surprising amount of water. Each compartment, usually three in 
> a concrete block will collect water.
>
>  Now if the brickwork is a veneer and the water is getting behind it the 
> problem may be more difficult to solve but if the brick is properly 
> installed there should be venting at the bottom of the brick wall where it 
> rests at the base. Every so many bricks should have venting. Look to see 
> that these are free from blockage, they are there exactly to drain any 
> moisture which gets behind the bricks and if clear should keep water from 
> collecting against the cement block and migrating through.
>
>  If the cement block is directly exposed to the outside then scrubbing it 
> a little to clean it then applying a good quality waterproof paint of 
> suitable colour on the outside to keep wind from driving rain through the 
> surface of the blocks and into the cavities should stop it from collecting 
> in there and making it's way out either through the inside of the block or 
> at the junction where the block rests on the foundation where it can 
> wander across the edges of your floor.
>
>  Because we can't really see the walls involved it is hard to know, it 
> might even be that the upper part is wood cladding and this is not well 
> enough flashed to carry rain running down the wood from getting in behind 
> the brick and repairing the flashing might be the solution.
>
>  Hope these ideas are helpful in determining the source and solution to 
> your water infiltration problems.
>
>  Now that the snow has arrived here in Ernest, Janet and I might be 
> convinced to come for a visit and personal inspection and maybe even a 
> little restoration work. <GRIN>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Bob Kennedy
>  To: [email protected]
>  Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:24 AM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help--my floor is leaking upwards!
>
>  Well first we'll all send our appreciation and pray for the best for your 
> son.
>
>  As for your water problem, you can probably look through the archives and 
> find a bunch on this topic. We've run it around many times.
>
>  The immediate suggestion would be to pick up a wet dry shop vac while 
> they'll be on sale this season. I've used them many times in a flooding 
> situation and the stronger ones will pull the water from carpet and help 
> in drying it from pulling a vacuum on the carpet itself.
>
>  As for outside, there are lots of places you can start.
>
>  Do you have gutters? Are they clean? Is there a downspout on that corner? 
> If there is a downspout, make sure it is able to empty without restriction 
> to the flow. If draining is free flowing, you may want to extend the end 
> several feet from the house.
>
>  It sounds like the house is built on a concrete pad so you don't have the 
> problem of cement blocks filling and leaking into the house below ground 
> level.
>
>  There are various things that can be applied to cement block to water 
> proof it, but that is only a bandade over the problem. The problem is the 
> need to drain water away from the house before it can build up and soak 
> through.
>
>  What you will need to do first is look at the ground itself on the 
> corners where the water comes into the house. The lay of the land needs to 
> be higher at the house and then slope away. If the ground is less than 
> level it will collect water there.
>
>  My first thoughts would be to dig a shallow trench around the outside and 
> lay drain tile. Drain tile is just 4 inch or larger plastic pipe with 
> holes about half way around the pipe. The holes need to face up so water 
> can get in the pipe and be carried away.
>
>  Shallow trench as in 8 to 12 inches. You would make a trench that has a 
> gentle slope like a quarter inch per foot, fill the bottom with a couple 
> inches of gravel, lay drain tile on the gravel and then fill the rest of 
> the trench with gravel so the drain tile is covered. Then you can use the 
> remaining dirt to cover the gravel and form a slope away from the house 
> for the water to run off.
>
>  Lots of us have done projects like this and my way is to wrap the drain 
> tile with a fabric before putting in the ground. The fabric works as a 
> type of filter keeping dirt and sand from washing into the tile and 
> clogging it.
>
>  Of course the tile has to continue away from the house for a ways before 
> emptying out or you'll just move the problem somewhere else along the side 
> of the house. So you'll also have to decide where the lowest point is, and 
> put in a T or elbow to run more pipe away from the house.
>
>  Here is an idea to get you started and I'm sure more will follow. Good 
> luck
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Mycell Armington
>  To: [email protected]
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:03 PM
>  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Help--my floor is leaking upwards!
>
>  Hello All,
>  I joined this list several months ago and have just been lurking and 
> reading and learning. A lot of the things I don't know about personally 
> and I probably will never use, but I thought it would be good just to have 
> a source to go to when needing home repair questions answered. Well, I 
> have a problem and I need your counsel, please read this out and lend me 
> your multitude of counsel.
>
>  First of all I'll try and explain my subject line. I live in a home that 
> was built in 1962. It was added on to at one end by closing in the car 
> port-/garage. Well that's another problem for another day. My immediate 
> problem is when it rains in massive quantities like for 2 or 3 days and I 
> mean heavy rain 10 inches or more in a 12 to 24 hour time frame the 
> concrete foundation gets wet and this is only in certain areas of the 
> house that water soaks up through ceramic tile. It's happened in the same 
> places 3 times this year and totally saturated my carpets that are on top 
> of the tiling. The room that this phenomenon is occurring in is my bedroom 
> and it's only happening in two corners those corners are on the outside of 
> the house and they are on the same side. The house is made of concrete 
> block and brick and some wood siding.
>
>  Sorry to belabor the description but the better I describe the better you 
> may be able to help me.
>
>  I am a single mother of adult children who are scattered over different 
> parts of the world. My son is a United States Marine and is currently 
> preparing to go to Iraq so he can't really do anything.
>
>  I've asked a few people and they're saying there may be a sealant that 
> can be painted on or poured on. Please help because I'm truly tired of 
> calling for help to move heavy furniture around and pulling up nasty 
> stinky carpet and padding and then running box fans directly through the 
> carpet to get it to dry to prevent it from mildew and mold. I had someone 
> the last time to cut the padding in sections and I ran the padding through 
> the dryer. I didn't think of that one someone else did. Please, please , 
> lend me your wisdom, counsel and advice. It took about 30 hours the last 
> time to finally get things back together.
>
>  Warm regards and much thanks in advance for any workable solutions.
>
>  Mycell Armington in Tallahassee Florida.
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