Well God Bless you Scott and best of luck.  You're a man after my own heart
because when I did something similar a buddy suggested the
"outside-the-wall" wiring and I rejected that idea myself.  My project was
not nearly so challenging because I was adding a completely new ceiling
fixture in a bedroom that had the (very) open attic just above it.  And the
switch was on a wall where the back of the wall was in the closet so I could
cut a 4" hole (via hole saw) from the closet side and no ugly results in the
main bedroom.
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Holland's Person, Bill
E-Mail: [email protected]
- Anonymous (from my source of goofy stuff)
- Eggs and Bacon for Breakfast
- An entire day commitment for a chicken.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Howell" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part


Hey Bill, yep, got the switch that actually controls a light that is
on the wall of all crazy things.  Not sure why the previous owner did
this, but really does nothing for providing light and well I have the
extra fan and light kit.  I thought about the external wiring deal,
but that didn't go over very well and yes, you are correct in that
there is a floor above this room.  One thing that hit me as I retired
for the day is that there is a main duct that runs perpendicular to
the joists and it is very possible I can fish down to the duct and
come up to where I need the box to be located.  So not hopeless, but
challenging. Once it is all done, it will have been worth it.
On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:22 PM, Bill Gallik wrote:

> Correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds as if you are trying to add a
> fixture in a ceiling that has a floor for another room above it?
>
> By the way, as for the dust, the vacuum attachment is good but to make
> things even more palatable to the little lady try laying a plastic
> tarp
> under the work area. It won't catch everything, but it does minimize
> some
> dust while showing the Mrs. that you are trying your best to
> eliminate the
> problem.
>
> One option you might consider is to purchase the wiring that is
> designed to
> be installed on the outside of the wall/ceiling. It's supposedly quite
> decorative and will get rid of the problem of your fishing problem.
> In this
> particular case, "outside" means where it will show as opposed to
> being
> hidden within the wall.
>
> As for what you hit, that would concern me. It may have been a nail,
> but if
> there are support brackets in your joists that would be of concern
> since you
> really have no way of knowing where on the bracket it's been
> compromised.
>
> By the way, is there a box already installed where you intend to
> place the
> switches. Also, keep in mind that you might like to have separate
> switches;
> one for the fan and one for the lights. This isn't very difficult
> because
> you can buy grounded 14-3 Romax where you'll have a white, red and
> black
> wire (plus the ground wire) all encased in a nicely round cable-like
> cable/wire. And if you have only a "single-gang" box you can buy one
> of
> those double switches (you can get these in fan/light rotary
> controls as
> well).
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> Holland's Person, Bill
> E-Mail: [email protected]
> - Anonymous (from my source of goofy stuff)
> - Eggs and Bacon for Breakfast
> - An entire day commitment for a chicken.
> - A Lifetime Commitment for a Pig
>
>
>



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