keep the dust from migrating in the air. Most minimal clean room application. This is why the drop cloth for a blind painter is a real pain. Just step in that which the drop cloth is meant to do, and then keep walking and you've *blown it! Grumble grumble. But even a drop cloth before a doorway is helpful, in addition to the door that is being used to reduce traveling dust.
itself. On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Scott Howell wrote: > Yep, that is the route I intend to go once I get the materials to > patch. A very good idea and thanks. > I think my wife now really understands that no project ever goes > completely smooth, rarely ever results in no mess, and seemingly takes > longer and develops your vocabulary. > On Aug 9, 2009, at 1:02 AM, Spiro wrote: > >> if the popcorn is truly coarse, you could hang dropclothes and make a >> chamber when spraying. Remove the hooks and no one will see the little >> holes. >> >> On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Tom Vos wrote: >> >>> Scott, >>> Would it be possible to use a thin rodd -- smaller than the drill >> bit you >>> used, to poke a wire or string through the series of holes you >> drilled? >>> If you can get the string through, or a small wire, you could then >> pull the >>> Romex through. >>> Also, if you have to patch the ceiling, you can buy an aerosole >> can of >>> popcorn ceiling patch. You can buy it in fine, medium or coarse. >>> But let me warn you, if you do it, cover everything, including >> walls for >>> yards around the area you spray. >>> It comes out of the can like a giant fart, and you'll collect some >> of the >>> stuff on yourself too. >>> Blessings, >>> Tom >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Scott Howell >>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 7:33 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part >>> >>> >>> All, >>> >>> I have a minor problem, ok not a problem so much as I'm just trying >>> to find an easy way to do something that would be simple if I'd just >>> stop trying to make life difficult. >>> I cut a hole in the ceiling for the fan box and I should point out >>> there is no fan or light etc. so a new install from scratch. I also >>> have the added problem of fishing wire from where the switch is to >> the >>> center of the room and of course the joists have the absolute >> nerve to >>> be running perpendicular to the direction I need to go; damn >> builders >>> didn't bother to consult with me before putting the place together, >>> but ah well. Ok, so, yeah I could knock a hole every other joist and >>> bang a hole in each joist and I only need a hole large enough to fit >>> my hand in so I can fish the wire. Now because I'm such a clever >>> fool, I wasted my money and got one of those four foot rods with the >>> bit on the end, meant for drilling hole. Well first it seemed like a >>> fine idea, but controlling that sucker wasn't easy and I'm fairly >> sure >>> I piloted the bit under the duct that had the nerve to be in my way, >>> but then I hit something that took the drill out of my hands and >> smash >>> the hell out of my forearm. Now not to be out done by the drill, I >>> tried again and got beat up by the drill again, but since I lack the >>> good sense to stop, I did punch through to the other side, but I >> have >>> no idea where in hell I ended up. So far my wife hasn't found any >>> holes in the bedrooms upstairs and that must mean I made holes >>> generally in the right direction. However, because I do lack common >>> sense, I didn't realize that trying to pilot the fish tape through >> the >>> holes I made will be damn near impossible. So, I think the holes are >>> generally in line with each other, but has anyone any tips on >> driving >>> a fish tape um, well, ahuh blindly through the joists? I'm trying so >>> hard to avoid making anymore holes and trying to justify the cost of >>> the bit/rod deal. I mean it'll be useful in driving up the wall into >>> the whatever it's called up there, but seems I'd have to run the >> fish >>> tape up that way and not through the hole where the fan box will go. >>> Of course luck would have it that the hole I made is right against >>> the beam and I'm hoping it won't cause me a lot of problems. >>> Of course the real hoot to all this is if I end up making holes, I >> got >>> one of those ceilings with the popcorn stuff on it. Well it's more >>> like thick, sharp, knuckle-slashing popcorn stuff. So, patching the >>> holes and finding that stuff will be interesting, but I still have >> the >>> plug I cut out of the ceiling, so matching it shouldn't be to bad >> and >>> it'll be easier in the end to patch that then if it were all smooth. >>> See I'm trying to avoid making the lovely spouse unhappy with >>> additional destruction. She's not overly happy with the dust, but >> she >>> understands dust is a way of life in the construction business and >>> well I tried taping the shop vac to the drill and that sort of >>> worked. :) So, a little less dust. Well hey, any thoughts >> appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >> >> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
