Yeah, I like the neat clean look and my wife would not stand for it.  
She'd agree if I pushed the point, but that agreement would be a  
constant reminder for ever after about "how it just doesn't look  
right". I'd of course agree in the end and I'd end up doing the work  
after all.

On Aug 8, 2009, at 7:35 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:

> Well God Bless you Scott and best of luck. You're a man after my own  
> heart
> because when I did something similar a buddy suggested the
> "outside-the-wall" wiring and I rejected that idea myself. My  
> project was
> not nearly so challenging because I was adding a completely new  
> ceiling
> fixture in a bedroom that had the (very) open attic just above it.  
> And the
> switch was on a wall where the back of the wall was in the closet so  
> I could
> cut a 4" hole (via hole saw) from the closet side and no ugly  
> results in the
> main bedroom.
> ---*---*---*---*---*---*---
> Holland's Person, Bill
> E-Mail: [email protected]
> - Anonymous (from my source of goofy stuff)
> - Eggs and Bacon for Breakfast
> - An entire day commitment for a chicken.
> - A Lifetime Commitment for a Pig
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Howell" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 4:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part
>
> Hey Bill, yep, got the switch that actually controls a light that is
> on the wall of all crazy things. Not sure why the previous owner did
> this, but really does nothing for providing light and well I have the
> extra fan and light kit. I thought about the external wiring deal,
> but that didn't go over very well and yes, you are correct in that
> there is a floor above this room. One thing that hit me as I retired
> for the day is that there is a main duct that runs perpendicular to
> the joists and it is very possible I can fish down to the duct and
> come up to where I need the box to be located. So not hopeless, but
> challenging. Once it is all done, it will have been worth it.
> On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:22 PM, Bill Gallik wrote:
>
> > Correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds as if you are trying to  
> add a
> > fixture in a ceiling that has a floor for another room above it?
> >
> > By the way, as for the dust, the vacuum attachment is good but to  
> make
> > things even more palatable to the little lady try laying a plastic
> > tarp
> > under the work area. It won't catch everything, but it does minimize
> > some
> > dust while showing the Mrs. that you are trying your best to
> > eliminate the
> > problem.
> >
> > One option you might consider is to purchase the wiring that is
> > designed to
> > be installed on the outside of the wall/ceiling. It's supposedly  
> quite
> > decorative and will get rid of the problem of your fishing problem.
> > In this
> > particular case, "outside" means where it will show as opposed to
> > being
> > hidden within the wall.
> >
> > As for what you hit, that would concern me. It may have been a nail,
> > but if
> > there are support brackets in your joists that would be of concern
> > since you
> > really have no way of knowing where on the bracket it's been
> > compromised.
> >
> > By the way, is there a box already installed where you intend to
> > place the
> > switches. Also, keep in mind that you might like to have separate
> > switches;
> > one for the fan and one for the lights. This isn't very difficult
> > because
> > you can buy grounded 14-3 Romax where you'll have a white, red and
> > black
> > wire (plus the ground wire) all encased in a nicely round cable-like
> > cable/wire. And if you have only a "single-gang" box you can buy one
> > of
> > those double switches (you can get these in fan/light rotary
> > controls as
> > well).
> > ---*---*---*---*---*---*---
> > Holland's Person, Bill
> > E-Mail: [email protected]
> > - Anonymous (from my source of goofy stuff)
> > - Eggs and Bacon for Breakfast
> > - An entire day commitment for a chicken.
> > - A Lifetime Commitment for a Pig
> >
> >
> >
>
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