Clifford: I hadn't thought about the float saving water until I read your post, but it makes perfect sense now. I wound up getting floats on the two supposedly universal flappers I bought this morning because they don't cost extra, and I can easily remove them if I need to. After all this, the thing is apparently not seated right anyway, because it still occasionally runs. Is there anything else I can do before calling in the professional turd wrastlers? Should I try changing the shut-off unit? I can't see that that would make a difference, but then my batting average on this one is pretty punky anyway. Thanks for any thoughts. I hope there's not some kind of damaging leak going on that I don't know about.
Bill Stephan Kansas Citty MO Email: [email protected] Phone: (816)803-2469 ----- Original Message ----- From: clifford <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009 1:30 pm Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry > Dear Dale: > I had a problem with the arm dropping too low with a tank on > which I had changed out the original handle and arm. I discovered > that the adjustment for the arm was related to the position you > have the arm in, when you tighten down the nut to hold it in > place. In my case, the thread was a left hand thread and it took > me a minute to figure out what was going on with the unit. > When changing out the flapper on the new model commodes, I > make sure and get one without the float, as that is designed in > many to cut down on water usage, and since we do not have a > shortage of water, since our drought lifted, I prefer the full > flush, as that prevents blockages much better. > > Yours Truly, > > Clifford Wilson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dale Leavens > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry > > > > Just that I had a similar problem with one of the toilets here a > couple of weeks ago. I couldn't really see anything wrong with the > flapper but since I had to change out the valve assembly anyway > and the flapper was part of that kit I changed the flapper too and > the trickle quit. The original flapper was a little stiff and > there seemed to be some encrustment on it which didn't really > scrape off so I am guessing it just wasn't forming to the seat as > well as the new and now softer flapper. > > I ran into another issue though which I can't explain, the lever > arm doesn't seem to want to stop descending so it interferes with > the fall float. I took a really stiff piece of wire and bent it to > 90 degrees and pushed one end of it into the top of the foam > insulation of the tank so the other sticks out horizontally and > restrains the lever arm from dropping below about the horizontal. > seems to be working. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:58 AM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry > > Dale, I de-slimed the thing as best I could, but we have hard > water, and the flapper I'm having trouble with is at least four > and a half yhears old, so it's probably time for a new one. > > Bill Stephan > Kansas Citty MO > Email: [email protected] > Phone: (816)803-2469 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dale Leavens <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:56 pm > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry > > Try adjusting the chain so it pulls the flapper up a little > > higher. This causes water to tip out of the flapper so it takes > a > > little longer to settle down onto the seat. > > > > You might try wiping around the surface of the flapper seat with > a > > rag too. Sometimes it collects slime and such which interferes > > with a good seal. Similarly, old rubber on those flappers > > sometimes gets hard or stiff or otherwise deforms and that can > > interfere with the seal. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:27 PM > > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry > > > > > > Well folks, as the subject line indicates I've been trying to > > fix a leaking or running toilet today. So far the lads at the > > hardware store, you know, the one that's a mile from my house on > > foot and a mile bac, have sold me two flappers, one which I > broke > > because the ears wouldn't fit my toilet, and one that fits so > > poorly the toilet refills every 30 seconds or so. > > I'm usually pretty easy to get along with when it comes to > > people making mistakes, but I was a little unhappy, so called > the > > manager of the place after the second flapper didn't work. I was > > explaining my unhappiness to her, and she said she was truly > sorry > > but that the place had just been held up at gunpoint and they > were > > dealing with the police and could I come in tomorrow. So what > > could I say. > > > > Anyway, then I started switching flappers and have two out of > > three toilets working, however, when I press the flush handle, > the > > flapper wants to seat itself before the tank empties. Can some > of > > you folks give me some pointers? Do I need to put some kind of > > small floats on the chains close to the flappers? The old one > that > > I replaced did have a chunk of cork or something similar on the > > chain, but the replacement flappers don't have anything like > that > > on the chains that came with them. The flappers are hollow > rubber > > if that helps the diagnosis. > > > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > > > Bill Stephan > > Kansas Citty MO > > Email: [email protected] > > Phone: (816)803-2469 > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4540 (20091025) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
