By any chance could the float be out of adjustment? If so the tank's extra
water will run down the over flow and run your water bill up.
Art
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry
Clifford: I hadn't thought about the float saving water until I read your
post, but it makes perfect sense now. I wound up getting floats on the two
supposedly universal flappers I bought this morning because they don't cost
extra, and I can easily remove them if I need to. After all this, the thing is
apparently not seated right anyway, because it still occasionally runs. Is
there anything else I can do before calling in the professional turd wrastlers?
Should I try changing the shut-off unit? I can't see that that would make a
difference, but then my batting average on this one is pretty punky anyway.
Thanks for any thoughts. I hope there's not some kind of damaging leak going
on that I don't know about.
Bill Stephan
Kansas Citty MO
Email: [email protected]
Phone: (816)803-2469
----- Original Message -----
From: clifford <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry
> Dear Dale:
> I had a problem with the arm dropping too low with a tank on
> which I had changed out the original handle and arm. I discovered
> that the adjustment for the arm was related to the position you
> have the arm in, when you tighten down the nut to hold it in
> place. In my case, the thread was a left hand thread and it took
> me a minute to figure out what was going on with the unit.
> When changing out the flapper on the new model commodes, I
> make sure and get one without the float, as that is designed in
> many to cut down on water usage, and since we do not have a
> shortage of water, since our drought lifted, I prefer the full
> flush, as that prevents blockages much better.
>
> Yours Truly,
>
> Clifford Wilson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dale Leavens
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 12:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry
>
>
>
> Just that I had a similar problem with one of the toilets here a
> couple of weeks ago. I couldn't really see anything wrong with the
> flapper but since I had to change out the valve assembly anyway
> and the flapper was part of that kit I changed the flapper too and
> the trickle quit. The original flapper was a little stiff and
> there seemed to be some encrustment on it which didn't really
> scrape off so I am guessing it just wasn't forming to the seat as
> well as the new and now softer flapper.
>
> I ran into another issue though which I can't explain, the lever
> arm doesn't seem to want to stop descending so it interferes with
> the fall float. I took a really stiff piece of wire and bent it to
> 90 degrees and pushed one end of it into the top of the foam
> insulation of the tank so the other sticks out horizontally and
> restrains the lever arm from dropping below about the horizontal.
> seems to be working.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry
>
> Dale, I de-slimed the thing as best I could, but we have hard
> water, and the flapper I'm having trouble with is at least four
> and a half yhears old, so it's probably time for a new one.
>
> Bill Stephan
> Kansas Citty MO
> Email: [email protected]
> Phone: (816)803-2469
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dale Leavens <[email protected]>
> Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry
> > Try adjusting the chain so it pulls the flapper up a little
> > higher. This causes water to tip out of the flapper so it takes
> a
> > little longer to settle down onto the seat.
> >
> > You might try wiping around the surface of the flapper seat with
> a
> > rag too. Sometimes it collects slime and such which interferes
> > with a good seal. Similarly, old rubber on those flappers
> > sometimes gets hard or stiff or otherwise deforms and that can
> > interfere with the seal.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:27 PM
> > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry
> >
> >
> > Well folks, as the subject line indicates I've been trying to
> > fix a leaking or running toilet today. So far the lads at the
> > hardware store, you know, the one that's a mile from my house on
> > foot and a mile bac, have sold me two flappers, one which I
> broke
> > because the ears wouldn't fit my toilet, and one that fits so
> > poorly the toilet refills every 30 seconds or so.
> > I'm usually pretty easy to get along with when it comes to
> > people making mistakes, but I was a little unhappy, so called
> the
> > manager of the place after the second flapper didn't work. I was
> > explaining my unhappiness to her, and she said she was truly
> sorry
> > but that the place had just been held up at gunpoint and they
> were
> > dealing with the police and could I come in tomorrow. So what
> > could I say.
> >
> > Anyway, then I started switching flappers and have two out of
> > three toilets working, however, when I press the flush handle,
> the
> > flapper wants to seat itself before the tank empties. Can some
> of
> > you folks give me some pointers? Do I need to put some kind of
> > small floats on the chains close to the flappers? The old one
> that
> > I replaced did have a chunk of cork or something similar on the
> > chain, but the replacement flappers don't have anything like
> that
> > on the chains that came with them. The flappers are hollow
> rubber
> > if that helps the diagnosis.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> >
> > Bill Stephan
> > Kansas Citty MO
> > Email: [email protected]
> > Phone: (816)803-2469
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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