bill,
There exists, or used too, a flapper replacement including a new seat for it
which fits over the old hole using a goop that comes allready
in the underparts of the new seat.
This way you just press it into place and hook up the chain and
you have an entirely new set of surfaces  and the old one hidden by the goop.

If  the flapper and old seat are both damaged, this may be an easy solution.

Tom Fowle

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 10:58:24AM -0500, [email protected] wrote:
> Dale, I de-slimed the thing as best I could, but we have hard water, and the 
> flapper I'm having trouble with is at least four and a half yhears old, so 
> it's probably time for a new one.
> 
> Bill Stephan 
> Kansas Citty MO 
> Email: [email protected] 
> Phone: (816)803-2469
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dale Leavens <[email protected]>
> Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry
> > Try adjusting the chain so it pulls the flapper up a little 
> > higher. This causes water to tip out of the flapper so it takes a 
> > little longer to settle down onto the seat. 
> > 
> > You might try wiping around the surface of the flapper seat with a 
> > rag too. Sometimes it collects slime and such which interferes 
> > with a good seal. Similarly, old rubber on those flappers 
> > sometimes gets hard or stiff or otherwise deforms and that can 
> > interfere with the seal. 
> > 
> > Hope this helps. 
> > 
> > 
> >  ----- Original Message ----- 
> >  From: [email protected] 
> >  To: [email protected] 
> >  Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:27 PM 
> >  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry 
> > 
> > 
> >    Well folks, as the subject line indicates I've been trying to 
> > fix a leaking or running toilet today. So far the lads at the 
> > hardware store, you know, the one that's a mile from my house on 
> > foot and a mile bac, have sold me two flappers, one which I broke 
> > because the ears wouldn't fit my toilet, and one that fits so 
> > poorly the toilet refills every 30 seconds or so. 
> >  I'm usually pretty easy to get along with when it comes to 
> > people making mistakes, but I was a little unhappy, so called the 
> > manager of the place after the second flapper didn't work. I was 
> > explaining my unhappiness to her, and she said she was truly sorry 
> > but that the place had just been held up at gunpoint and they were 
> > dealing with the police and could I come in tomorrow. So what 
> > could I say. 
> > 
> >  Anyway, then I started switching flappers and have two out of 
> > three toilets working, however, when I press the flush handle, the 
> > flapper wants to seat itself before the tank empties. Can some of 
> > you folks give me some pointers? Do I need to put some kind of 
> > small floats on the chains close to the flappers? The old one that 
> > I replaced did have a chunk of cork or something similar on the 
> > chain, but the replacement flappers don't have anything like that 
> > on the chains that came with them. The flappers are hollow rubber 
> > if that helps the diagnosis. 
> > 
> >  Thanks in advance for any suggestions. 
> > 
> >  Bill Stephan 
> >  Kansas Citty MO 
> >  Email: [email protected] 
> >  Phone: (816)803-2469 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> > 
> > 

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