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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, Spiro wrote: > I got an old 404 not found. > So please tell of it's advantages, disadvantages; and absolute "must have" > situations. > Thanks > > > > > > On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, Michael baldwin wrote: > >> check out this publication, it should help you out. >> >> http://www.buildingscience.com/documents/reports/rr-0401-conditioned-crawl-s >> pace-construction-performance-and-codes/view >> >> >> Michael >> >> >> _____ >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Max Robinson >> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:37 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind. >> >> >> >> >> Both my shop and Sue's teddybear cottage are sitting on blocks with the >> bottom of the siding about 12 inches above ground. We have thought about >> installing 1 by 12 treated boards around them to keep the cold wind from >> infiltrating underneath and taking away heat. One reservation I have is >> trapping ground moisture under the buildings. This would be a permanent >> year round installation. What are the thoughts of all you handy men and >> women? >> >> Regards. >> >> Max. K 4 O D S. >> >> Email: m...@maxsmusicplace. <mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com> com >> >> Transistor site http://www.funwitht <http://www.funwithtransistors.net> >> ransistors.net >> Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwitht <http://www.funwithtubes.net> ubes.net >> Music site: http://www.maxsmusi <http://www.maxsmusicplace.com> cplace.com >> >> To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. >> funwithtransistors- <mailto:funwithtransistors-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com> >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, >> funwithtubes- <mailto:funwithtubes-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com> >> [email protected] >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lee A. Stone" <se...@mailsent. <mailto:sedac%40mailsent.net> net> >> To: <blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >> yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 7:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind. >> >>> 7 >>> we still pak snow on theNorth and West side of the house after the >>> first few snow falls. does great for stopping some drafts. and for >>> the bilco doors we cover them with plastic and pile the shnow on top >>> of that. Lee >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 07:30:40PM -0600, William Stephan >>> wrote: >>>> Yes Dale, very helpful. The guy at the lumber yard I talked to was >>>> trying >>>> to sell me plastic sheeting like you might cover a window with, so I'm >>>> going >>>> to have to do some more research into what we have available here. >>>> Thanks >>>> again. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >> yahoogroups.com >>>> [mailto:blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >> yahoogroups.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Dale Leavens >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 17:10 >>>> To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >> yahoogroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The Polystyrene we buy usually comes in 2 by 8 sheets with rebate like >>>> edges >>>> so that they can overlap. It comes in various thicknesses, usually inch >>>> and >>>> a half or two inches. You can cut it with a hand saw or even score it >>>> deeply >>>> then snap it but that isn't as nice an edge. for some reason they usually >>>> colour it blue to distinguish it from the open cell Styrofoam, this stuff >> >>>> is >>>> a higher insulation value. There is special sealing tape, it is a lot >>>> like >>>> the wide packing tape you are probably familiar with, when I bought it it >>>> was red I don't know if that is significant. >>>> >>>> The point is to insulate but also to keep warm air, particularly when you >>>> have paid to heat it inside. >>>> >>>> Now this stuff can be flammable and is best covered if there is any >>>> significant risk of exposure to open flame. It can also be helpful for >>>> holding it into place. You can run screws through something like particle >>>> board and the foam into structure beyond it. I have used wide washers, a >>>> couple of inches to hold the heads of screws to hold it into place. A >>>> little >>>> glue like liquid nails or even some calking on the structure then press >>>> the >>>> foam into it should also work well in your application. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: William Stephan >>>> To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >>>> yahoogroups.com >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:14 PM >>>> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind. >>>> >>>> Dale: all good points really. The only reason I was thinking about a >>>> temporary set up is that occasionally, the varmint-killing cat leaves us >>>> a >>>> little something under the porch until the possums get it. But, of >>>> course, >>>> if the foundation were blocked he wouldn't be doing that in any case. The >>>> roof itself, according to the manufacturer, is pretty well insolated. >>>> It's >>>> about five or six inches thick. If the snow ever meltsz, I'll go see what >>>> the lumber yard has in terms of >>>> >>>> Extruded Polystyrene. Thanks for the eye-opener. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >>>> yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@ >>>> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Dale Leavens >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 21:14 >>>> To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >>>> yahoogroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind. >>>> >>>> Is there any good reason why you wouldn't want to block air infiltration >>>> in >>>> the summer as well? >>>> >>>> It would be my inclination to wrap the inside of what ever skirting you >>>> have >>>> around the deck foundation with something like extruded polystyrene >>>> sheets >>>> and seal them together with the tape sold for that purpose. I would look >>>> for >>>> ways of sealing it tightly at the top and bottom, keep any air from >>>> entering >>>> or leaving except between the room and under the floor. Unless the dogs >>>> are >>>> piddling through the deck or for some other reason you need to air the >>>> area >>>> to keep stink down there isn't any good reason to loose heated or cooled >>>> air >>>> to the good outdoors and, it is expensive as well. >>>> >>>> I would consider insulating under the roof as well if there is a >>>> convenient >>>> and practical way to do so. You would probably find your heater raised >>>> the >>>> temperature 50 or 60 degrees, you might even find you want to turn it off >>>> quite a bit. >>>> >>>> If you feel the need to circulate air through the structure you can >>>> always >>>> open the windows and in that way choose when and how much cold you >>>> require. >>>> >>>> If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: William Stephan >>>> To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >>>> yahoogroups.com >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 9:40 PM >>>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind. >>>> >>>> All: >>>> >>>> We have a sort of three-season room on the north side of our house. It >>>> faces off into a yard surrounded by privacy fences and a couple garages. >>>> The room is sort of unique. It started life as just an open deck. We had >>>> a >>>> pre-fabricated aluminum room added shortly after we took up residence >>>> here. >>>> This room is all aluminum and glass with two aluminum doors and many >>>> sliding >>>> windows. During winter we use this room as a sort of mud room, and it's >>>> where we groom our dogs as well. Because of that, when it was >>>> constructed, >>>> the deck floor was taken up, and an aluminum screen was put in place, and >>>> the deck flooring was then replaced on top of this screen. Our idea was >>>> that snow from boots and shovels and dogs, and spillage from our fountain >>>> etc. would just drain through the cracks between the decking, an bugs >>>> couldn't come through either and that part's worked well for us. >>>> >>>> We've been having snow here, more snow than anybody's seen in twenty or >>>> thirty years. It blows here too, and there's quite a bit of snow piled >>>> and >>>> drifted around this three season room. To keep it more or less useable, >>>> we >>>> have one of those Sun Twin 5,000 BTU heaters there, and typically, it >>>> keeps >>>> the temperature between 20 an 25 degrees above the outdoor temperature. >>>> This year though, it's been keeping the room about 30 or 35 degrees above >>>> the outside temperature. I imagine a lot of this is because of the snow >>>> around the foundation. There are several gaps that allow air to circulate >>>> pretty freely under thestructure. >>>> >>>> So, it might be a good idea to block these gaps, though probably only >>>> during >>>> the Winter months. >>>> >>>> Does anyone know if there might be say, bladders, that I could fill with >>>> a >>>> compresser that would form themselves in a way so as to fill gaps ofa few >>>> incheshere or ther, and if so, what is the correct term for them? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for any input on this. >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You will remember something that you should not have forgotten. >>> . >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Send any questions regarding list management to: >>> blindhandyman- <mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com> >> [email protected] >>> To listen to the show archives go to link >>> http://www.acbradio >> <http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_ >> page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29> >> .org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_ >> position=47:29 >>> Or >>> ftp://ftp.acbradio. <ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/> >> org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ >>> >>> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. >>> http://www.acbradio >> <http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday> >> .org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday >>> >>> Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various >>> List Members At The Following address: >>> http://www.jaws- <http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/> >> users.com/JAWS/handyman/ >>> >>> Visit the archives page at the following address >>> http://www.mail- >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/> >> archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >>> If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following >>> address for more information: >>> http://www.jaws- <http://www.jaws-users.com/> users.com/ >>> For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man >>> list just send a blank message to: >>> blindhandyman- <mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo> >> [email protected]! 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