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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Tom Hodges wrote: > Why don?t you just throw some of that majestic ice melt up there? > > > > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Dale Leavens > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 11:26 PM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!! > > > > > > There may be no direct heat source but, might there be sun warming the porch > or was it maybe stuck on to keep cold entering the house through the door in > which case it is also harvesting heat from inside the door. > > The snow on the roof will insulate the under side of the decking from the > cold above so heat from below will melt the snow immediately above the roof. > Well until the water runs over the eve where it is cold and freezes again > forming the dam. > > It might also be that the leak is where the roof of the porch meets the > house depending on how that structure was built. > > If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lenny McHugh > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 11:00 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!! > > I wonder what caused the problem at my daughter's home. Her front porch is > on the south west side of the house. Right now there is a major leak > somewhere on the porch roof. There was about 30 inches of snow. Now the > downspout is frozen solid and some major ice dams and icicles. There is no > heat source under the roof, > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Andrus" <dave.and...@blindmission.org > <mailto:dave.andrus%40blindmission.org> > > To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >> > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 10:24 PM > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!! > > Hi everyone, > > I grew up in northern Wisconsin. We were always told that if you have > icicles it means you do not have enough insulation in the attic. When the > sun melts snow from the top the water runs off the top. If you have ice dams > and icicles this means melt from the underside. This can only happen from > heat coming up from the rooms below. > > Certainly there are a few exceptions to this situation, but I suggest you > find out how much insulation you have. We now live in st. Louis. Both here > and up north they suggest an R30 or above for the attic. > > Dave A. > > Working together, sharing the light of salvation seen through the cross of > Jesus > > Rev. Dave Andrus, Director > Lutheran Blind Mission > 888 215 2455 > HTTP://WWW.BLINDMISSION.ORG > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] > On Behalf Of john schwery > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:14 PM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!! > > Dan, here is an article from a Burgh paper. My wife is from the Burgh and > gets articles like this. > > text of forwarded message follows: > >> Don't flip, homeowners, just let the water drip Friday, February 19, >> 2010 Pittsburgh Post-Gazette >> >> When water is dripping down your walls and pooling on the floor, you >> don't want to hear someone say: "Do nothing." >> >> Yet, that's probably the best advice roofers and insurance agents have >> for the thousands of homeowners affected this week by ice dams. >> >> If you are one of them, your best hope for relief is that temperatures >> go up or down -- soon. >> >> "Every house has tons of icicles hanging from gutters. It's very >> picturesque but it's bad news for homeowners and for us," said David >> Thomas of Thomas & McMenamin, an Upper St. Clair insurance agency. >> >> Mr. Thomas, a part owner, has heard from nearly two dozen homeowners >> complaining of interior leaking over the last two weeks. And he's >> expecting a lot more. >> >> As long as temperatures stay around freezing, snow and ice will >> continue to thaw and refreeze on the roof, where ice at the edge holds >> back water behind it. That water works its way through the shingles -- >> even climbing up a pitched roof -- and drips down inside the walls, >> damaging wallboard, trim, insulation and sometimes flooring. >> >> So what can you do? Nothing, except catch or mop up the water you can >> see and maybe poke a hole in the wall or ceiling to drain what you >> can't see. >> >> Sam W. Gregg, 79, of Peters, said that about four days ago, he and his >> wife noticed water dripping down a window in the dining room of their >> 50-year-old home. Then, the same thing happened in their living room >> and two bedrooms. >> >> "Since it was a little warmer today, it's getting heavier," he said >> Thursday. "I'm worried that it will get worse." >> >> The Greggs replace soaked towels on the windowsills every six hours or >> so. They haven't filed a homeowners claim yet but figured they should >> let Mr. Thomas know. >> >> Mr. Thomas said most water damage claims will be covered. And since >> large insurance carriers have designated this a catastrophe loss, >> homeowners' >> rates generally won't be affected. >> >> However, that doesn't mean insurance companies will replace your roof, >> or pay to make sure this doesn't happen again. For that, you'll have to >> wait until the ice and snow are gone. >> >> Installing loops of heat tape -- electrical wire or tape that can be >> plugged into an outlet -- will create gaps in the ice at the eaves to >> allow water to run off. An even better solution is to have a roofer >> install an ice and water shield beneath the bottom 3 or 4 feet of >> shingles. This adhesive rubber membrane will prevent water trapped >> behind an ice dam from getting through. >> >> But no one -- roofers included -- should be working up there now. Even >> if you could safely work on an icy, pitched roof, removing snow or >> chipping away ice won't help and might just make it worse. >> >> So for now, experts say, mop up, stay off the roof and pray that >> temperatures drop into the 20s and stay there. As long as it's ice, it >> can't drip into your house. >> >> Then hope temperatures gradually reach the 40s, and that ice in the >> gutters finally melts. >> >> Read more: >> <http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f >> <http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f> >>> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f >> <http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f> >> >> From Our Neck Of The World, our current weather >> is: Silver Springs, Florida Clear, 42?F Wind:N-010? at 3mph Only a >> fool tests the depth of the water with both feet. >> Anna > text of forwarded message ends: > > John > Currently in Ocala, Florida Clear, 64?F Wind:SSW-200? at 6mph > Lactomangulation: Manhandling the 'open here' > spout on a milk container so badly that one has to resort to the 'illegal' > side. > Created by Weather Signature v1.31 . http://www.weathersig.com > <http://www.weathersig.com> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ------------------------------------ > > Send any questions regarding list management to: > blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com> > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster > <http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_ > page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29> > &PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29 > Or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various > List Members At The Following address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ > > Visit the archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > > If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following > address for more information: > http://www.jaws-users.com/ > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list > > just send a blank message to: > blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo > <mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo> ! 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