Would it be more reasonable to buy an oven thermometer your wife can read for a 
couple of bucks for the purpose of calibrating the oven?

Just saying, there are some things worth doing the usual way.

Dale leavens.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alan Paganelli 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] calibrating oven


    
  Well, for the price, you can probably find uses for it but I didn't it was 
  worth the time. It is little more then a cheap talking watch on the end of 
  an aluminum probe. Maybe you'll use yours more then I use mine.

  Alan

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Lenny McHugh" <[email protected]>
  To: <[email protected]>
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 9:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] calibrating oven

  > Thanks, I did order it not sure how/if it will work. My problem was that I
  > could not find one talking or not that would go up to 550 degrees. There
  > are a few for about $100, it would be cheaper to get the service guy to do
  > it for about $50. Even if I can get it closer it would be much better. To
  > bake a cake she has to have it in for almost an hour to get it done and 
  > the
  > cook time is suppose to be 35 minutes. With the old spring unit it 
  > registers
  > over 25 degrees low. I was thinking that if I left the oven on for about 
  > 45
  > minutes I could touch the probe to the metal rack. The rack should be the
  > same temp and not be affected by the air escaping.
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Alan Paganelli" <[email protected]>
  > To: <[email protected]>
  > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:23 AM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] calibrating oven
  >
  >
  > This probe unit is mostly made of plastic and the metal probe part doesn't
  > look like it's the strongest thing you've ever seen. It's only 30 to 35
  > bucks and is intended to be stuck in a hunk of meat to measure it's
  > temperature which sounds easier in theory then in practice. The object of
  > the game is to get the probe in the center of the meat. That's fine if 
  > it's
  > an I-round which has no bone. If it's a 7 or 9 bone roast, it can be a
  > challenge even getting close to the center which skews the reading. The
  > thermometer is useful for many things but calibrating an oven probably 
  > won't
  > be one of them. You can stick the thing in a peace of meat 5 times and
  > get 5 different answers which means you have to average the temperature
  > readings. It's not that the thing is worthless, it's because you cannot 
  > get
  > the probe in the exact same place every time. The probe is 10 inches long
  > with the plastic thermometer sitting on the top. It reminds me of having 
  > a
  > talking watch sitting on top of a cheap metal peace. It doesn't mean that
  > it isn't useful or that it's not worth 30 bucks, it just means it probably
  > won't be very useful in this case. It's kind of like trying to use it to
  > take your kid's temperature with a meat thermometer. In this case 
  > however,
  > it would read body temperature if used under the arm. It can read air
  > temperature but I don't believe it's that stable. I have one of these
  > things and to tell the truth, don't use it all that much and when when I 
  > do
  > use it for roasts and such, you spend more time fooling around with it
  > trying to get an average then it's probably worth. If you need to 
  > calibrate
  > an oven, I wouldn't depend on this thing.
  >
  > Alan
  >
  > Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
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  > the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
  >
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  > available upon request.
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press" <[email protected]>
  > To: <[email protected]>
  > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:53 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] calibrating oven
  >
  >
  >>I think you can put the probe inside the oven
  >> while it is heating. I have a meat thermometer
  >> and you put the probe in the meat and there is a
  >> cable that extends out of the oven to the talking
  >> unit. I just press the button on the unit to hear
  >> the temperature. No need to open the oven to check.
  >>
  >> As for accuracy, we did a test with the talking
  >> unit that we bought from Maxi Aids some time ago
  >> and the little round one that we hang on the
  >> rack. I suppose that is the spring type that you
  >> mention, but don't know for sure, but I know it's
  >> not digital. They both registered the same temp after about 11 minutes.
  >> Betsy
  >> At 12:12 PM 6/10/2010, you wrote:
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>I wonder how much the air temp would fall in that 10 seconds
  >>>while the probe unit was guessing.
  >>>
  >>>Accuracy ain't so easy
  >>>Tom
  >>>
  >>>On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 02:52:57PM -0700, Alan Paganelli wrote:
  >>> > The talking probe thermometer works even if
  >>> you just stick it in the hot air
  >>> > in the oven. It takes only 5 to 10 seconds to reach the temperature 
  >>> > but
  >>> > it's real purpose is to measure the internal temperature of meat.
  >>> >
  >>> > Alan
  >>> >
  >>> > Please click on:
  >>> 
<http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/>http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  >>> > There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
  >>> > the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
  >>> >
  >>> > The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
  >>> > available upon request.
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  >>> > From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press"
  >>> <<mailto:brailleit%40hawaii.rr.com>[email protected]>
  >>> > To:
  >>> > <<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected]>
  >>> > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:32 PM
  >>> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] calibrating oven
  >>> >
  >>> >
  >>> > > Aloha Lenny,
  >>> > > Just a note about this. I complained that my oven was off. When the
  >>> > > guy came out, he said that after the oven light went out and the
  >>> > > preheated beeps sounded, I needed to wait until I heard the oven
  >>> > > performed two more cycles before it was actually at the right
  >>> > > temperature. He said that the preheat light goes out when the oven
  >>> > > hits the temperature that is set, but that the entire oven is not at
  >>> > > a steady temperature. Since I've been doing that, everything seems 
  >>> > > to
  >>> > > cook properly. We have one of those little round oven thermometers
  >>> > > that hangs on the rack. It is not accessible, but it was $4 and we
  >>> > > rarely have to use it.
  >>> > > Betsy
  >>> > > At 10:51 AM 6/10/2010, you wrote:
  >>> > >>Karen knows that our oven is off by at least 25 degrees. In order to
  >>> > >>calibrate the oven, I need an accurate
  >>> digital thermometer that will go up
  >>> > >>to 550 degrees. The instructions are to set the temp to 550 and when
  >>> > >>that
  >>> > >>temp is reached hold the bake button in. To set it I need a way to
  >>> > >>check
  >>> > >>the
  >>> > >>actual temp. we have a spring thermometer but have no faith in that.
  >>> > >>I
  >>> > >>just
  >>> > >>read that the blind mice have a cooking thermometer that will go up
  >>> > >>that
  >>> > >>high. Since it is a probe type I wonder if we would just touch the
  >>> > >>rack
  >>> > >>for
  >>> > >>the actual temperature? Any suggestions? I hate to call someone in 
  >>> > >>to
  >>> > >>do
  >>> > >>that job since all we need is a way to
  >>> record the actual temp when the pre
  >>> > >>heat light goes out.
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