We looked for one and none went that high. She tried Sears, hardware stores 
and two department stores. This afternoon we are going to Reading about 40 
miles away and they have a lot bigger stores.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Leavens" <dleav...@puc.net>
To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] calibrating oven


Would it be more reasonable to buy an oven thermometer your wife can read 
for a couple of bucks for the purpose of calibrating the oven?

Just saying, there are some things worth doing the usual way.

Dale leavens.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alan Paganelli
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] calibrating oven



  Well, for the price, you can probably find uses for it but I didn't it was
  worth the time. It is little more then a cheap talking watch on the end of
  an aluminum probe. Maybe you'll use yours more then I use mine.

  Alan

  Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
  the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Lenny McHugh" <lmch...@verizon.net>
  To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 9:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] calibrating oven

  > Thanks, I did order it not sure how/if it will work. My problem was that 
I
  > could not find one talking or not that would go up to 550 degrees. There
  > are a few for about $100, it would be cheaper to get the service guy to 
do
  > it for about $50. Even if I can get it closer it would be much better. 
To
  > bake a cake she has to have it in for almost an hour to get it done and
  > the
  > cook time is suppose to be 35 minutes. With the old spring unit it
  > registers
  > over 25 degrees low. I was thinking that if I left the oven on for about
  > 45
  > minutes I could touch the probe to the metal rack. The rack should be 
the
  > same temp and not be affected by the air escaping.
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Alan Paganelli" <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net>
  > To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
  > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:23 AM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] calibrating oven
  >
  >
  > This probe unit is mostly made of plastic and the metal probe part 
doesn't
  > look like it's the strongest thing you've ever seen. It's only 30 to 35
  > bucks and is intended to be stuck in a hunk of meat to measure it's
  > temperature which sounds easier in theory then in practice. The object 
of
  > the game is to get the probe in the center of the meat. That's fine if
  > it's
  > an I-round which has no bone. If it's a 7 or 9 bone roast, it can be a
  > challenge even getting close to the center which skews the reading. The
  > thermometer is useful for many things but calibrating an oven probably
  > won't
  > be one of them. You can stick the thing in a peace of meat 5 times and
  > get 5 different answers which means you have to average the temperature
  > readings. It's not that the thing is worthless, it's because you cannot
  > get
  > the probe in the exact same place every time. The probe is 10 inches 
long
  > with the plastic thermometer sitting on the top. It reminds me of having
  > a
  > talking watch sitting on top of a cheap metal peace. It doesn't mean 
that
  > it isn't useful or that it's not worth 30 bucks, it just means it 
probably
  > won't be very useful in this case. It's kind of like trying to use it to
  > take your kid's temperature with a meat thermometer. In this case
  > however,
  > it would read body temperature if used under the arm. It can read air
  > temperature but I don't believe it's that stable. I have one of these
  > things and to tell the truth, don't use it all that much and when when I
  > do
  > use it for roasts and such, you spend more time fooling around with it
  > trying to get an average then it's probably worth. If you need to
  > calibrate
  > an oven, I wouldn't depend on this thing.
  >
  > Alan
  >
  > Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  > There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
  > the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
  >
  > The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
  > available upon request.
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press" <braill...@hawaii.rr.com>
  > To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
  > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:53 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] calibrating oven
  >
  >
  >>I think you can put the probe inside the oven
  >> while it is heating. I have a meat thermometer
  >> and you put the probe in the meat and there is a
  >> cable that extends out of the oven to the talking
  >> unit. I just press the button on the unit to hear
  >> the temperature. No need to open the oven to check.
  >>
  >> As for accuracy, we did a test with the talking
  >> unit that we bought from Maxi Aids some time ago
  >> and the little round one that we hang on the
  >> rack. I suppose that is the spring type that you
  >> mention, but don't know for sure, but I know it's
  >> not digital. They both registered the same temp after about 11 minutes.
  >> Betsy
  >> At 12:12 PM 6/10/2010, you wrote:
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>I wonder how much the air temp would fall in that 10 seconds
  >>>while the probe unit was guessing.
  >>>
  >>>Accuracy ain't so easy
  >>>Tom
  >>>
  >>>On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 02:52:57PM -0700, Alan Paganelli wrote:
  >>> > The talking probe thermometer works even if
  >>> you just stick it in the hot air
  >>> > in the oven. It takes only 5 to 10 seconds to reach the temperature
  >>> > but
  >>> > it's real purpose is to measure the internal temperature of meat.
  >>> >
  >>> > Alan
  >>> >
  >>> > Please click on:
  >>> 
<http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/>http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  >>> > There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
  >>> > the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back 
regularly!
  >>> >
  >>> > The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
  >>> > available upon request.
  >>> >
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  >>> > From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press"
  >>> <<mailto:brailleit%40hawaii.rr.com>braill...@hawaii.rr.com>
  >>> > To:
  >>> > 
<<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
  >>> > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:32 PM
  >>> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] calibrating oven
  >>> >
  >>> >
  >>> > > Aloha Lenny,
  >>> > > Just a note about this. I complained that my oven was off. When 
the
  >>> > > guy came out, he said that after the oven light went out and the
  >>> > > preheated beeps sounded, I needed to wait until I heard the oven
  >>> > > performed two more cycles before it was actually at the right
  >>> > > temperature. He said that the preheat light goes out when the oven
  >>> > > hits the temperature that is set, but that the entire oven is not 
at
  >>> > > a steady temperature. Since I've been doing that, everything seems
  >>> > > to
  >>> > > cook properly. We have one of those little round oven thermometers
  >>> > > that hangs on the rack. It is not accessible, but it was $4 and we
  >>> > > rarely have to use it.
  >>> > > Betsy
  >>> > > At 10:51 AM 6/10/2010, you wrote:
  >>> > >>Karen knows that our oven is off by at least 25 degrees. In order 
to
  >>> > >>calibrate the oven, I need an accurate
  >>> digital thermometer that will go up
  >>> > >>to 550 degrees. The instructions are to set the temp to 550 and 
when
  >>> > >>that
  >>> > >>temp is reached hold the bake button in. To set it I need a way to
  >>> > >>check
  >>> > >>the
  >>> > >>actual temp. we have a spring thermometer but have no faith in 
that.
  >>> > >>I
  >>> > >>just
  >>> > >>read that the blind mice have a cooking thermometer that will go 
up
  >>> > >>that
  >>> > >>high. Since it is a probe type I wonder if we would just touch the
  >>> > >>rack
  >>> > >>for
  >>> > >>the actual temperature? Any suggestions? I hate to call someone in
  >>> > >>to
  >>> > >>do
  >>> > >>that job since all we need is a way to
  >>> record the actual temp when the pre
  >>> > >>heat light goes out.
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