On 6/1/22 3:52 PM, Yoav Weiss wrote:
LGTM3On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 8:58 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org> wrote: On 6/1/22 1:34 PM, Chris Harrelson wrote:On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 8:26 PM Ayu Ishii <a...@chromium.org> wrote: Hi Mike! With the current usage measurements we see, we hadn't considered any enterprise policy for opt-out. But certainly can follow the process to do so if you feel that there may be risk of undercounting. Deprecation of WebSQL in third-party contexts added a policy that lasted 3 milestones after deprecation before full removal as an example. Although the usages were quite different from that deprecation, we can follow the same process if this sounds reasonable. I think this plan sounds good. LGTM1 once you have an enterprise opt-out in place that will remain for 3 milestones. Also please make sure to communicate this change in the enterprise notes and other communication channels.A couple of notes I took last Friday and forgot to post: I dumped the list of sites from HTTPArchive (query below) and after de-duping them, ended up with 835 sites. I then ran a script which naively looks at response codes, and got the following results: 2XX count: 685/835 3XX to HTTP endpoint count: 74/835 4XX count: 3/835 5XX count: 2/835 So, from this dataset, roughly 9% of those redirect to an HTTP endpoint.
This should say HTTPS, not HTTP. I am bad at typing.
That said, I think reducing risk of breakage for enterprise environments is a useful and friendly thing to do. LGTM2 w/ that done. SELECT rank, url, FROM `httparchive.blink_features.features` WHERE feature = 'OpenWebDatabaseInsecureContext' ORDER BY rank ASC- Ayu On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:57:01 PM UTC-7 Mike West wrote: I'm happy to see this moving forward, thanks for pushing it ahead! That said, this seems like the kind of thing that's likely-enough to impact enterprise that we should include a temporary opt-out to give ourselves some wiggle room if it turns out that we're undercounting usage. Have y'all already put something like that together? -mike On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 2:18 AM Ayu Ishii <a...@chromium.org> wrote: *Contact emails *a...@chromium.org <mailto:a...@chromium.org>, jsb...@chromium.org <mailto:jsb...@chromium.org>, ajayrahate...@google.com <mailto:ajayrahate...@google.com> *Specification *https://www.w3.org/TR/webdatabase/ *Summary *We intend to deprecate and remove usage of WebSQL in non-secure contexts. Deprecation is targeted for M105 and removal is targeted for M107. *Blink component *Blink>Storage>WebSQL <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EStorage%3EWebSQL> *Motivation *The Web SQL Database standard was first proposed in April 2009 and abandoned in November 2010. Gecko never implemented this feature and WebKit deprecated this feature in 2019 <https://github.com/WebKit/WebKit/commit/761bce943c0696a6bb93116eb0576ed07dbfdc65>. The W3C encouraged those needing web databases to adopt Web Storage <https://www.w3.org/TR/webstorage/> or Indexed Database <https://www.w3.org/TR/IndexedDB/>. WebSQL has been deprecated and removed <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/TM6YDx1Hh08> for third-party contexts in M97. We hope to entirely deprecate and remove WebSQL at some future point when usage is low enough. *TAG review *N/A Risks Based on usage measurements <https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/4073> rolled out in M97, 0.005% of page loads use WebSQL in a non-secure context. Less than 0.01% of top sites have adopted this feature. Out of the 20 top sites listed for the month of April 2022, 11 of the sites use a feature detection library Modernizr 1.5 <https://modernizr.com/news/modernizr-15>, on a version released in 2010. This would create a test database to check feature availability. I was unable to reproduce the creation of other WebSQL databases outside of the one created by Modernizr on these sites. 4 sites that seem to use an outdated private mode detection script <https://stackoverflow.com/q/48169810> which was intended for older versions of iOS. All the scripts I have found checked if window.openDatabase existed before usage, likely due to the lack of support in Gecko and WebKit. Interoperability and Compatibility Gecko: Never implemented WebKit: Deprecation shipped in iOS 13 and Safari 13 <https://trac.webkit.org/changeset/277564/webkit> Web developers: No signals *Debuggability *N/A Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>? Not fully,one test <https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:third_party/blink/web_tests/external/wpt/clear-site-data/support/test_utils.sub.js;l=136> checks the availability of the feature. *Tracking bug *https://crbug.com/1212492 Link to related intents Intent to Deprecate and Remove: WebSQL in third-party contexts <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/TM6YDx1Hh08> *Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status *https://chromestatus.com/feature/5175124599767040-- You received this message because you are subscribedto the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. 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