Hi, I see that Mozilla has published an explainer <https://github.com/mozilla/explainers/blob/main/translation.md> for an (alternate?) translation API. I realize that their explainer may not cover language detection, but language detection is part of a larger spec linked here that includes translation. Have you talked to them about it?
Also, is this intent just proposing to ship section 4 from the linked specification? On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 4:34 PM Deepti Bogadi <dbog...@chromium.org> wrote: > Hi Alex, > > Overall we have received positive feedback from the developers. A more > recent snapshot of the quantitative feedback was shared at BlinkOn: > bit.ly/blinkon-2025-builtin-ai (slide 34). > > We are working with our partners who are excited > <https://github.com/webmachinelearning/translation-api/issues/36> to use > this API. I am also sharing our latest OT feedback > <https://github.com/webmachinelearning/meetings/blob/main/telcons/2025-02-26-cg-minutes.md> > stats > across various APIs. > > Finally, from the latest OT sign up numbers, we were already order of > magnitude above a typical OT which suggests lots of interest in what this > API enables. > > Hope this helps. Let me know if you have further questions. > > Thanks, > Deepti > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 11:13 AM Alex Russell <slightly...@chromium.org> > wrote: > >> Hey Deepti, >> >> Are you able to summarize developer feedback from the OT? >> >> Best, >> >> Alex >> >> On Friday, April 25, 2025 at 1:58:12 PM UTC-7 Deepti Bogadi wrote: >> >>> Contact emails >>> >>> dome...@chromium.org, fer...@chromium.org, kenjibah...@chromium.org, >>> a...@chromium.org, memm...@chromium.org, christin...@chromium.org, >>> dbog...@chromium.org >>> >>> Explainer >>> >>> https://github.com/WICG/translation-api/blob/main/README.md >>> >>> Specification >>> >>> >>> https://webmachinelearning.github.io/translation-api/#language-detector-api >>> >>> Note that although the translator API and language detector APIs both >>> live in a single specification, they can be implemented independently, and >>> this Intent is only for the language detector API. >>> >>> Summary >>> >>> A JavaScript API for detecting the language of text, with confidence >>> levels. >>> >>> >>> Blink component >>> >>> Blink>AI>Language Detection >>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3EAI%3ELanguage%20Detection%22> >>> >>> TAG review >>> >>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/948 >>> >>> TAG review status >>> >>> Issues addressed >>> >>> The TAG had a number of questions and suggestions, particularly around >>> API shape, all of which were addressed and incorporated into the design. >>> >>> Origin Trial Name >>> >>> Language Detector API >>> >>> Chromium Trial Name >>> >>> LanguageDetectionAPI >>> >>> Origin Trial documentation link >>> >>> https://github.com/WICG/translation-api/blob/main/README.md >>> >>> WebFeature UseCounter name >>> >>> kV8LanguageDetector_Detect_Method >>> >>> Risks >>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>> >>> This feature, like all built-in AI features, has inherent >>> interoperability risks due to the use of AI models whose behavior is not >>> fully specified. See some general discussion in >>> https://www.w3.org/reports/ai-web-impact/#interop. >>> >>> By providing a high-level API with clear output formats, as well as a >>> capabilities API for detecting what a given browser supports, we believe we >>> can guide web developers toward using the API in an interoperable way that >>> does not depend on the specific models that a given browser or browser >>> version uses. >>> >>> Gecko: No signal ( >>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1015) >>> >>> WebKit: No signal ( >>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/339) >>> >>> Web developers: Positive (https://github.com/WICG/proposals/issues/147) >>> >>> Other signals: >>> >>> Ergonomics >>> >>> This API will likely frequently be used in concert with the translator >>> API (https://chromestatus.com/feature/5172811302961152). >>> >>> The language detection is run on the main thread, the same as the >>> browser's built-in language detection. The inference is fast enough that it >>> is not a concern. >>> >>> >>> Activation >>> >>> This feature would definitely benefit from having polyfills, backed by >>> any of: cloud services, lazily-loaded on-device models using WebGPU, or the >>> web developer's own server. We anticipate seeing an ecosystem of such >>> polyfills grow as more developers experiment with this API. >>> >>> >>> WebView application risks >>> >>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such >>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications? >>> >>> None >>> >>> >>> Debuggability >>> >>> Basic tooling suffices >>> >>> >>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, >>> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)? >>> >>> Yes >>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>> ? >>> >>> The WPTs test the API surface, but since no specific language is >>> guaranteed to be supported, we cannot test the actual language detection. >>> Some tests will need to be marked as optional as they assume certain >>> language support. They also currently do not pass on wpt.fyi since it runs >>> without a language detection model, so creation of LanguageDetector fails. >>> >>> Flag name on about://flags >>> >>> language-detection-api >>> >>> Finch feature name >>> >>> LanguageDetectionAPI >>> >>> Rollout plan >>> >>> Will ship enabled for all users >>> >>> Requires code in //chrome? >>> >>> False >>> >>> Measurement >>> >>> kV8AILanguageDetector_Detect_Method >>> >>> Estimated milestones >>> >>> Shipping on desktop >>> >>> 137 >>> >>> Origin trial desktop first >>> >>> 130 >>> >>> Origin trial desktop last >>> >>> 135 >>> >>> Origin trial extension 1 end milestone >>> >>> 138 >>> >>> DevTrial on desktop >>> >>> 129 >>> >>> Origin trial Android first >>> >>> 130 >>> >>> Origin trial Android last >>> >>> 135 >>> >>> DevTrial on Android >>> >>> 129 >>> >>> Origin trial WebView first >>> >>> 130 >>> >>> Origin trial WebView last >>> >>> 135 >>> >>> >>> Anticipated spec changes >>> >>> None but the API shape is designed with extensibility in mind >>> >>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>> >>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/6494349985841152?gate=5122129510268928 >>> >>> Links to previous Intent discussions >>> >>> Intent to Prototype: >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/Ie46tc6_8so/m/eY1huFmOAAAJ >>> >>> Intent to Experiment: >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAM0wra-WvH-sxxWndwAWPLF3eEYqeLhXrz-VmZKH4Wxzbpse-Q%40mail.gmail.com >>> Intent to Extend Experiment 1: >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAO4d-SsFc3ucbmasgZmWn4PE_TOMMnWZQCzrL%3DXbbo5tDxMSOg%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status >>> <https://chromestatus.com/>. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "blink-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAJcT_ZgG8%2BepW52jqPEbny4cCCYbSC9q6r8sw6uKmrw_gphpwA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAJcT_ZgG8%2BepW52jqPEbny4cCCYbSC9q6r8sw6uKmrw_gphpwA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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