Hi all,

Thanks for the thorough review! I've opened a GitHub issue
<https://github.com/WebAudio/web-speech-api/issues/156> for the remaining
request. Hopefully we'll settle on an option before the next Audio Working
Group meeting on 5/15! I'll update the spec as soon as we do.

Thanks,
Evan


On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 8:10 AM Alex Russell <slightly...@chromium.org>
wrote:

> Thanks Evan and Jeff.
>
> Evan: if we can get to API symmetry, I think that will help considerably.
>
> Evan/Jeff: this seems like good advice from the TAG. When do we think we
> can get the bikeshed repain...er...develop updated names?
>
> Best,
>
> Alex
>
> On Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 12:12:29 AM UTC-7 Jeffrey Yasskin wrote:
>
>> FYI, the TAG finished our review with
>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2853142041.
>> We were generally happy with the design decisions that Evan and the WG have
>> made, but we were still concerned that "ondevice-only" excludes some
>> choices that future UAs might reasonably want to explore. We listed 5 kinds
>> of locations that a user might want to run speech recognition (or heavy
>> workloads in general), and we thought the WG should look at the concrete
>> websites that want to adopt this, figure out which locations they're ok
>> with, and pick a name based on that. We didn't think Google Meet's
>> described use case for "ondevice-only"
>> <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2837046998>
>>  was
>> even about recognition location, but it might also indicate a feature the
>> WG might want to add.
>>
>> Jeffrey
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 11:31 AM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We discussed the TAG feedback at the Audio Working Group meeting
>>> yesterday and I've posted our response here:
>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2815982645
>>>
>>> Please let me know if anyone has any questions/comments/concerns.
>>>
>>> I don't think there's any particular reason to unprefix before shipping
>>>> on-device, is there?
>>>
>>> Also to answer your question, Rick, I don't think there's any reason to
>>> unprefix before shipping on-device, so we might as well lump it together as
>>> a bundle :).
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Evan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 10:54 AM Brian Kardell <bkard...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just linking this up as I see there are some questions, but the opening
>>>> post seems to suggest there are positive signals from WebKit...
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/443
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, April 16, 2025 at 10:55:52 AM UTC-4 Rick Byers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 8:14 PM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the detailed feedback, Jeffrey! We'll discuss this at the
>>>>>> Audio Working Group meeting this week and I'll update this thread
>>>>>> afterwards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 9:08 PM Jeffrey Yasskin <jyas...@chromium.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FYI, the TAG left comments at
>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2803693504
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:22 AM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Are you thinking it might be reasonable to ship in M128 (decide by
>>>>>>>>> branch on Apr 28, plan to merge any required changes before May 21)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That sounds like a reasonable target, assuming TAG doesn't propose
>>>>>>>> any significant changes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That said, if you want to, I'm supportive of shipping the unprefixing
>>>>>>>>> alone
>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/6422562> 
>>>>>>>>> now,
>>>>>>>>> since you already proved to us that the unprefixed API is not an
>>>>>>>>> opportunity to make any breaking API changes. Do you prefer to 
>>>>>>>>> decouple
>>>>>>>>> that, or just wait and get the whole bundle approved to ship together?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Either is fine with me! Would decoupling just be a matter of making
>>>>>>>> the changes, or would I need to create a separate Chrome Status entry, 
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> position statements, all of the approvals, etc.? If it's the former, we
>>>>>>>> might as well make the change now. Otherwise it might just be easier to
>>>>>>>> bundle everything together.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> I'm OK with just shipping the unprefixing under this same intent
>>>>> without the extra paperwork, but also it's a bit simpler if we just keep 
>>>>> it
>>>>> all lumped together as a bundle. I don't think there's any particular
>>>>> reason to unprefix before shipping on-device, is there?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:51 AM Thomas Steiner <to...@google.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This all looks great to me! Are you thinking it might be
>>>>>>>>>> reasonable to ship in M128 (decide by branch on Apr 28, plan to 
>>>>>>>>>> merge any
>>>>>>>>>> required changes before May 21)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Off by one, classic. I think you meant 1*3*8 here. I know it's
>>>>>>>>> obvious now, but someone might once look back at this in ten years 
>>>>>>>>> from now
>>>>>>>>> and wonder…
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Whoops, yes of course - thank you :-).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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